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Nadia Zaldivar

Can I claim exempt from withholding on my W-4 for 2025?

Hey Reddit tax people, I need some advice about claiming exempt from withholding. My situation has changed a lot since last year, and I'm wondering if I can claim exempt for 2025. I started a new job that pays significantly less than my previous position (went from $72k to about $48k annually), plus I have a ton of deductions this year that I didn't have before. Last year I ended up getting a massive refund of almost $3,800 which was basically like giving the government an interest-free loan. I'd rather have that money in my paycheck throughout the year since I'm barely making ends meet right now. I know there are requirements for claiming exempt - like having no tax liability last year and expecting none this year. I did pay some taxes last year (about $1,200 total), but with my new income level and deductions (mortgage interest, property taxes on my first home, student loan interest, and some medical expenses), I'm pretty sure I'll owe nothing for 2025. What are the risks if I claim exempt but end up owing some taxes? Would I get hit with penalties? Is there a better approach than going completely exempt? I really need the extra cash flow now rather than waiting for a refund next year.

Be really careful about claiming exempt. This isn't just about adjusting your withholding - it's a specific declaration that you expect to have ZERO tax liability. Based on what you shared, you probably shouldn't claim exempt since you had a tax liability last year ($1,200) and will likely have some liability this year too, even with your lower income and new deductions. At $48k, you'll still have taxable income after the standard deduction (which is $14,600 for single filers in 2025). Instead of claiming exempt, you should adjust your W-4 to reduce withholding. The current W-4 doesn't use allowances anymore, but you can add an amount on line 4(b) for deductions beyond the standard deduction, or specify an additional amount to withhold (or reduce withholding) on line 4(c). If you incorrectly claim exempt and end up owing, you could face underpayment penalties if you owe more than $1,000 at tax time and haven't had at least 90% of your tax liability withheld throughout the year.

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Ev Luca

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Would they be better off claiming "0" dependents or is that not how it works anymore? I always get confused with the new W-4 format. Also, how much would the underpayment penalty actually be if they do claim exempt and end up owing?

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The current W-4 doesn't use the "number of allowances" system anymore, so there's no option to claim "0" dependents like in the past. Instead, you'll need to complete the different sections of the form to adjust your withholding appropriately. Regarding underpayment penalties, they're calculated based on the amount you underpaid and how long you underpaid it. The IRS uses a percentage that changes quarterly (recently around 3-5%). On a $1,000 underpayment, that might be roughly $30-50, but it varies based on several factors including when you should have made payments.

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Avery Davis

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Collins Angel

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How accurate was it though? Did the withholding amount it suggested actually work out when you filed? I've tried those calculators on the IRS website before and they were way off for my situation.

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Marcelle Drum

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Does it work for more complicated situations? I have W-2 income plus 1099 gig work and rental property income. Most calculators I've tried don't handle multiple income sources well.

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Avery Davis

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Have you considered simply increasing your allowances instead of going fully exempt? I've been doing this for years. I claim 3 allowances even though technically I should only claim 1 based on my situation. This reduces my withholding enough that I get a small refund (usually around $500) instead of a massive one, but I'm not risking penalties by claiming exempt.

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Peyton Clarke

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The W-4 doesn't use allowances anymore though. They completely redesigned it in 2020. Now you have to use dollar amounts for adjustments instead of the old allowance system.

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You're right, I forgot they changed the form! I'm still using an old W-4 at my job that I filled out years ago. For the new form, you'd use Line 4(b) to list additional deductions or Line 4(c) to specify an additional amount to reduce per paycheck. It accomplishes the same thing as my old method, just using different fields. The basic idea remains the same - adjust your withholding to get close to your actual liability without going exempt.

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Vince Eh

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Whatever you do, DON'T claim exempt if you don't truly qualify. My friend did this last year because she wanted more money in her checks, and she ended up owing $4,200 at tax time PLUS a $420 penalty. She had to set up a payment plan with the IRS and it was a whole mess.

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This is so important. People don't realize the headache that comes with owing a bunch at tax time. I had to do a payment plan once and it was such a hassle. Plus they charge interest on top of the penalties!

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PixelPioneer

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Based on your situation, I'd strongly advise against claiming exempt. You had $1,200 in tax liability last year, which automatically disqualifies you from claiming exempt status. The IRS requires ZERO tax liability in the prior year AND an expectation of zero liability for the current year. At $48k income, even with your new deductions, you'll likely still have some tax liability after the standard deduction. Instead, use the current W-4 form to adjust your withholding: - Line 4(b): Enter estimated annual deductions above the standard deduction (like your mortgage interest, property taxes, student loan interest) - Line 4(c): You can specify an additional amount to reduce from each paycheck This approach will get you more money in your paychecks without the risk of penalties. If you end up owing more than $1,000, you could face underpayment penalties on top of the tax bill. Consider running some numbers first - maybe use the IRS withholding calculator or speak with a tax professional to find the sweet spot between getting more cash flow now and avoiding a big bill later.

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Grace Lee

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I completely agree with the advice to avoid claiming exempt in your situation. Having $1,200 in tax liability last year means you don't meet the qualification requirements, and at $48k you'll still have taxable income even with your new deductions. One thing I'd add - when you're filling out the new W-4, be conservative with your estimates on line 4(b). It's better to slightly over-withhold and get a small refund than to under-withhold and face penalties. You can always adjust your W-4 again later in the year if you find your withholding is still too high. Also, keep track of your deductions throughout the year. Things like mortgage interest and property taxes can vary, and you want to make sure your withholding adjustments are based on realistic numbers. The IRS withholding calculator (on their website) can help you run different scenarios as your situation changes. Remember, the goal is to get closer to breaking even at tax time, not necessarily to owe nothing. A small refund of a few hundred dollars is actually ideal - it means you got most of your money throughout the year but didn't underpay.

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Omar Farouk

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This is really solid advice! I'm in a similar boat - switched jobs mid-year and was tempted to claim exempt to get more cash flow. Grace is spot on about being conservative with line 4(b) estimates. I learned the hard way that it's easy to overestimate deductions, especially with variable expenses like medical costs. One thing I'd add - if you're a first-time homeowner like the OP mentioned, make sure you understand which home expenses are actually deductible. Property taxes and mortgage interest yes, but things like PMI and home repairs generally aren't (unless it's a major improvement). I made that mistake my first year as a homeowner and had to scramble to adjust my withholding mid-year when I realized my deduction estimates were way off. The IRS calculator Grace mentioned is definitely worth using - I run it every few months now just to make sure I'm still on track, especially since my income can vary with overtime and bonuses.

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Everett Tutum

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I'm glad to see everyone steering you away from claiming exempt - that would definitely be a mistake in your situation. With $1,200 in tax liability last year, you don't qualify for exempt status regardless of your income change. Here's a practical approach for your W-4 adjustment: Start by calculating your expected deductions above the standard deduction ($14,600 for 2025). Your mortgage interest, property taxes, and student loan interest could easily add up to several thousand dollars. Let's say they total $8,000 - you'd enter that amount on line 4(b). For line 4(c), you might want to reduce withholding by an additional $50-100 per paycheck to account for your lower income bracket, but be conservative here. You can always submit a new W-4 later if you're still getting too much withheld. The key is finding the balance between better cash flow and avoiding penalties. Given your tight budget, even a small underpayment penalty would hurt, so err on the side of caution. You might still get a refund, but it should be much smaller than the $3,800 you got last year. Consider keeping track of your year-to-date withholding on your pay stubs and run the IRS calculator every few months to make sure you're on track.

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This is excellent step-by-step guidance! I really appreciate how you broke down the actual dollar amounts for the W-4 lines. As someone who just bought their first home this year, I'm dealing with a similar situation and was also tempted by the exempt option after getting a huge refund last year. Your point about tracking year-to-date withholding on pay stubs is something I hadn't thought of - that's a great way to stay on top of things throughout the year instead of just hoping for the best come tax time. I'm definitely going to start doing quarterly check-ins with the IRS calculator like you suggested. One question though - when you mention being conservative with line 4(c) adjustments, how do you determine what's "too much" to reduce per paycheck? Is there a rule of thumb or should I just start small and adjust as needed?

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