Unemployment Overpayment Not Showing on Treasury Offset Hotline - Will My Refund Still Be Taken?
Has anyone else experienced an unemployment overpayment debt that doesn't show up on the Treasury Offset Program hotline but your refund still gets intercepted? Last year my overpayment showed clearly on the hotline and they took my refund as expected. But this year? Nothing showing up at all when I call, and the automated system is telling me my last offset payment was processed in 2023. Could I have actually flown under the radar this time? Or is this just a system glitch that's going to crush my hopes when my refund gets taken anyway? Really hoping to see that deposit hit my SBTG account tomorrow. As a contractor, I've been planning my quarterly estimated payments around this refund... am I being too optimistic?
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Zainab Omar
The Treasury Offset Program (TOP) database is required under 31 CFR § 285.4 to provide notice to debtors before intercepting federal payments. However, there are several scenarios where you might not see an active debt listed: 1. Database synchronization issues between UI agencies and Treasury (common in Q1 2024) 2. Debt may have been transferred to a different collection authority 3. Temporary system outage during their regular Tuesday maintenance window 4. Debt could be marked as 'satisfied' but refund still manually flagged I wouldn't count on receiving that refund until it's actually deposited. The 'last payment' information is particularly unreliable during peak tax season processing.
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Connor Murphy
This happened to me last year! I called the offset line and nothing showed up, but they still took my entire refund for a UI overpayment from 2021. When I finally got through to someone, they said there was a 3-week delay in updating the offset database during tax season. By the time it showed up in their system, my refund was already gone. I was counting on that money for car repairs... it was devastating.
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Yara Sayegh
It's like fishing in a pond where the fish keep teleporting. The offset system is supposed to be transparent, but it's more like looking through muddy water with sunglasses on. I had a state tax debt that disappeared from the system in 2023 but still got collected. When I finally reached someone, they explained that debts can move between different collection systems without notice. Your debt might not be visible on the hotline but could still be active in the IRS's internal collection matrix.
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NebulaNova
I checked the TOP database on January 15th, 2024 and saw my unemployment overpayment listed. Checked again on February 2nd and it was gone. Called on February 10th and they confirmed it was still an active debt despite not showing up. My refund was offset on February 28th. The system updates on specific cycles - typically the 1st and 15th of each month, but tax season creates backlogs in their database synchronization process.
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Keisha Williams
Have you received an official Debt Satisfaction Notice from your state's UI department? Without that document, you should assume the debt is still collectible regardless of what the TOP hotline says. The IRS and Treasury use different collection modules that don't always communicate effectively during peak processing periods. What state are you in and when exactly was the overpayment established? The timing matters significantly for how it's processed in the current tax year.
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Paolo Conti
This is exactly right. I work with these systems regularly, and the TOP database (866-TOP-CALL) is actually just a public-facing interface to a much more complex debt management system. The IRS Collection Module operates independently and has priority access to incoming returns. You can verify your debt status directly with your state UI office at www.careeronestop.org/LocalHelp/UnemploymentBenefits - they maintain the authoritative records that drive the offset process.
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Amina Diallo
Quick question - does the 60-day notice requirement still apply if the debt was previously offset? I've heard they don't have to send a new notice each tax year for the same debt. Might explain why OP isn't seeing it in the system but could still get hit with the offset. Time is ticking if they need to address this before the refund gets processed! 😬
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Oliver Schulz
I'm getting even more concerned now. Has anyone actually had their refund go through successfully after having an overpayment offset the previous year? I've been checking my transcript daily and it shows the refund amount is still the full amount I'm expecting. Wouldn't it show a reduction if they were planning to take it? I'm so detail-oriented about my taxes and this uncertainty is killing me. I've been tracking this overpayment issue for 14 months now and thought I finally had clarity when it disappeared from the system.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
I might, um, have a suggestion that could possibly help in this situation. When I had a similar issue last year, I spent nearly three weeks trying to reach someone at the Treasury Offset Program to clarify my status. After perhaps dozens of attempts, I finally used Claimyr (https://www.claimyr.com) which connected me to an actual human at the agency in about 20 minutes. The agent was able to check multiple systems and confirmed that my debt was satisfied, even though it wasn't showing correctly in their public-facing system. It seems that sometimes there might be information that isn't visible through the automated hotline but that agents can access directly. If you're concerned, it might be worth speaking to someone before your refund processes.
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AstroAdventurer
Has anyone compared what happens with SBTG versus direct deposit to your bank? My situation was similar to this last year, but I had my refund going straight to my bank instead of through a preparation service. My brother used SBTG and his offset showed up differently than mine did. Would love to know if the payment pathway makes a difference in how/when offsets are applied!
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Javier Mendoza
The Treasury Offset Program is wildly inconsistent this time of year, isn't it? I've been watching these forums for years and noticed a pattern: offsets that don't appear in February often mysteriously reappear in March. But have you considered that your debt might have been sold to a private collection agency? If that happened, it would disappear from TOP but could still be legally collectible through other means. Did you receive any notices about your debt being transferred? Have you checked your credit report recently to see if the debt appears there under a different collector?
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Emma Wilson
I thought I was in the clear last year when my student loan debt vanished from the TOP system. My transcript showed the full refund amount, WMR showed approved, and I even got a DDD. Then, two days before the deposit date, my refund was adjusted and I received only a portion. It appears that the Treasury can intercept funds even after the IRS has approved the refund, at least in some cases. The systems don't always communicate in real-time, which might explain why you're not seeing the debt listed. I would suggest, perhaps, preparing for both possibilities until the money is actually in your account.
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Malik Davis
Did you request a debt verification letter from your state unemployment office? That's the only way to be 100% certain your overpayment was satisfied. The TOP hotline is just one indicator, but the state UI system is the source of truth for these debts. What does your state's unemployment portal show when you log in?
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