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Understanding Distribution Code on 1099-R for Excess Roth IRA Contribution Removal

I recently put $8,250 into my 2022 Roth IRA back in February 2023. After doing my taxes, I realized I messed up because my MAGI was higher than expected and my actual contribution limit was only $6,650. So I contacted my brokerage and had them remove the excess $1,600 (they adjusted it for some small losses in the account too). I'm trying to avoid having to file an amended return next year if possible, and I'm confused about what distribution code will show up on my 2023 1099-R form for this excess removal. If I had made the original contribution in 2022, I think it would show up as code PJ on the 2023 form. But since I actually made the contribution in 2023, would it still be PJ, or would it show up as code 8J instead? Really appreciate any insight on this! The last thing I want is to get this wrong and have more headaches with the IRS later.

This is actually a common issue, so don't worry too much! The distribution code on your 1099-R form for removing excess Roth IRA contributions depends on when you removed the excess. Since you contributed to your 2022 Roth IRA in 2023 (which is allowed until the tax filing deadline), but then removed the excess in the same year after discovering your MAGI limits, you should expect to see code "8" on your 1099-R. This code indicates an excess contribution removed before the due date of your return. The "J" modifier would be added if your distribution includes earnings (or is adjusted for losses). So you'll likely see "8J" as the distribution code, not "PJ" which is used in different circumstances.

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Thanks for the explanation, but I'm a bit confused. What exactly is the difference between PJ and 8J? And does this mean I won't have to pay any penalties since I caught and fixed the mistake before filing?

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The code "P" is used for returns of contributions made to education and retirement accounts in the same year. Code "8" is specifically for excess contributions removed before the tax filing deadline (including extensions). You shouldn't have to pay any penalties since you identified and removed the excess contribution before the tax filing deadline. The IRS allows this correction without penalty when done promptly. Just be sure to keep documentation of the removal in case there are any questions later.

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One thing to consider with excess contributions - check if your brokerage reported the removal correctly. Last year my brokerage initially coded my excess contribution removal incorrectly on my 1099-R, which could have caused major issues. I had to contact them to have it corrected. The distribution code matters a lot because it tells the IRS whether you need to pay the 6% excess contribution penalty or not. With code 8J, you should be fine as long as you removed the excess before the tax filing deadline (including extensions).

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How do you even know if the brokerage reported it correctly? I just got my 1099-R and it has code 1J. Is that going to be a problem for my excess contribution removal?

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Code 1J would likely be incorrect for an excess contribution removal before the tax filing deadline. Code 1 is typically for normal distributions when you're eligible (over 59½). You should contact your brokerage right away and ask them to review the distribution code. You can verify by comparing the distribution code with the reason for your distribution. For excess contribution removals before the filing deadline, code 8 is correct. If they used code 1, the IRS might think it's a normal distribution, which could lead to penalties for the excess contribution since it wouldn't appear to have been properly corrected.

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Does anyone know if this affects Form 5329? I removed excess contributions like OP, got a 1099-R with code 8J, but my tax software is still prompting me to fill out Form 5329 and showing a 6% penalty. Shouldn't this form be unnecessary if I corrected the excess before the deadline?

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Your tax software is probably being overly cautious. If you properly removed the excess contribution before the tax filing deadline AND your 1099-R shows code 8J, you generally don't need to file Form 5329 or pay the 6% penalty. I'd recommend checking the specific inputs in your tax software. There might be a question asking if you removed the excess contribution before the deadline that you need to answer "yes" to. Sometimes these programs default to the worst-case scenario until you provide additional information.

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Thanks for clearing that up! I went back through my tax software and found I had answered a question incorrectly. There was a specific screen asking if I had removed the excess before the deadline, and once I changed my answer to "yes," the Form 5329 and penalty disappeared. Such a relief not having to pay that 6% penalty. The tax software interface was really confusing about this particular issue.

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I went through almost the exact same situation last year! Made an excess Roth contribution, caught it during tax prep, and had my brokerage remove it before the filing deadline. Just to confirm what others have said - you should see code 8J on your 1099-R since you removed the excess in the same year before the tax deadline. The "8" indicates excess contribution removal, and the "J" modifier accounts for the adjustment (loss in your case). One tip: when you get your 1099-R, double-check that the distribution amount matches what your brokerage told you they removed. Mine was slightly different due to market fluctuations between when I requested the removal and when it was processed. Also keep all your documentation showing the removal was requested and completed before the tax deadline - it's good backup if the IRS has any questions. The good news is no penalties and no amended return needed since you caught it in time!

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