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Isabella Santos

Two 1099-R Forms with Different Distribution Codes - Both for Excess Contribution Removals Made Same Day Before 4/15/2023

I'm a bit confused about some 1099-Rs I received for tax year 2023. Both are related to excess contribution removals I made from my retirement account on April 12, 2023: First one shows $5,432.34 with a taxable amount of zero, IRA/SEP/SIMPLE box is not checked, and it has distribution Codes P and J. Second one shows $89.34 with a taxable amount of zero, IRA/SEP/SIMPLE box is not checked, and it has distribution Codes 8 and J. I've done some homework and understand that the 1099-R with Codes P and J means I need to amend my 2022 return. But I'm not sure what to do with the one that has Codes 8 and J. From what I've read, it seems like I need to include this on my 2023 return? From what I understand, Code 8 is for excess contributions plus earnings/interest... but then why is the taxable amount zero? And why does this one have Code J too? It's all so confusing. These were both processed on the same day for excess contributions, so why are they coded differently? Anyone gone through this before? Any help appreciated!

StarStrider

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This is definitely confusing, but I can help walk you through it. Distribution codes on 1099-Rs can be tricky to understand. The first 1099-R with codes P and J represents the return of your excess contribution ($5,432.34). Code P specifically indicates a principal return of excess contributions, and Code J shows it was an early distribution from a retirement plan with no known exception. You're correct that you'll need to amend your 2022 return for this one. The second 1099-R with codes 8 and J represents the earnings on your excess contribution ($89.34). Code 8 is used for excess contributions plus earnings/interest. The reason it shows taxable amount as zero might be because the issuer left that calculation to you - those earnings are generally taxable in the year of distribution (2023). The J code again indicates it was an early distribution. For the second 1099-R, you'll report it on your 2023 return. Those earnings are typically subject to income tax plus a 10% early withdrawal penalty (unless you qualify for an exception).

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Ravi Gupta

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Thanks for explaining! Quick follow-up - how exactly do I amend my 2022 return for the Code P distribution? Do I just reduce my contribution amount? And for the Code 8 one on my 2023 return, do I need to use some special form or just report it as income?

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StarStrider

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For amending your 2022 return, you'll need to file Form 1040-X along with a corrected Form 8606 if it was a traditional IRA (or Form 5329 to remove any excess contribution penalties). Essentially, you're reducing your reported contribution amount by the $5,432.34 that was returned to you. For the Code 8 distribution on your 2023 return, you'll report the $89.34 as income on your Form 1040. You'll also need to complete Form 5329 to calculate the 10% early distribution penalty on this amount (unless you qualify for an exception). The earnings are subject to regular income tax in the year distributed.

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Sean Doyle

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Not to make things more complicated, but make sure you're handling the state tax implications of these excess contribution removals too. That's something I completely missed when I had a similar situation. Some states require you to report the returned excess contribution on your state return even if there's no federal tax impact. When I got my 1099-R with code P, I amended my federal return but forgot about the state return and ended up getting a notice.

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Does this vary by state? I'm in California and now I'm worried I might have missed something on my state return last year when I had an excess contribution situation.

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Yes, it absolutely varies by state. California actually has some specific rules about this. They generally conform to federal treatment, but you still need to file a Schedule CA to reconcile any differences. For example, if you deducted an IRA contribution on your federal return and then had to remove it as an excess contribution, you'd need to make an adjustment on your California return as well. Some states also have different rules about the taxation of the earnings portion. I'd recommend checking with a tax professional familiar with California's specific requirements to make sure you're covered.

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Diego Chavez

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I went through almost the exact same situation last year! Had two 1099-Rs for excess contribution removals made on the same day - one with codes P and J, another with codes 8 and J. It's really confusing when you first see it. The key thing to understand is that they represent two different parts of the same transaction. The P code is for the principal (your original excess contribution) that gets backed out of your prior year return, while the 8 code is for any earnings that grew on that excess contribution while it sat in your account. Even though both were processed the same day, they have different tax treatments. For your 2022 amendment, you'll reduce your IRA contribution deduction by $5,432.34. For 2023, that $89.34 in earnings gets added to your income and you'll likely owe the 10% early withdrawal penalty on it too. One tip - when you're amending 2022, make sure you also check if you claimed any retirement savings credit (Form 8880) based on that contribution. You might need to recalculate that as well. The whole process is a pain, but once you understand the logic behind the different codes, it makes more sense.

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