How to file taxes with excess Roth IRA contribution removal without having 1099-R form yet?
I made an extra contribution to my Roth IRA for 2023 tax year - put in $800 over the limit. I caught the mistake and removed the excess in February 2024, before the tax filing deadline. Here's my problem though - my brokerage (Fidelity) is saying they won't issue the 1099-R for this correction until January 2025 since the withdrawal happened in 2024. I really don't want to file an amended return later. Has anyone dealt with this before? How can I properly report this on my 2023 taxes that I'm working on now? From what I've researched, it seems like I should use distribution code P when self-reporting this, but I'm not sure about a few things: - Will Box 2a (Taxable amount) be $0 since I'm just correcting my excess contribution? - Box 3 (Capital gain) should be $0 too, right? The fund actually lost money - Since my fund sold at a loss, I only withdrew $740.25 instead of the full $800 excess contribution amount. Is that the right approach? Any help from someone who's been through this would be really appreciated!
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Jackie Martinez
You're on the right track! When you withdraw an excess contribution before the tax filing deadline (including extensions), you're essentially treating it like the contribution never happened. Distribution code P is correct - it identifies this as a removal of excess contributions. For Box 2a (Taxable amount), you should indeed report $0 since you're just correcting an excess contribution made within the allowed time frame - not taking an actual distribution from earnings. Box 3 should also be $0 because you didn't realize any capital gains. Actually, since your investments lost value, you handled it correctly by only withdrawing the current value ($740.25). The IRS only requires you to remove what's actually there - you don't need to come up with the difference out of pocket if your investments lost value. When filing without the 1099-R, you'll need to self-report this on your tax return. Most tax software allows you to enter this information manually - just make sure you report it accurately with the correct distribution code and amounts.
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Lia Quinn
•Thanks for the explanation! One thing I'm still confused about - if the broker isn't sending the 1099-R until next year, how exactly do I report this on my tax return? Do I just create a "phantom" 1099-R in my tax software with the correct amounts? And is there any penalty for the loss portion that I didn't withdraw?
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Jackie Martinez
•Yes, you'll need to create what's essentially a "placeholder" 1099-R in your tax software. Most tax programs allow you to manually enter 1099-R information even if you haven't received the actual form. Just be accurate with the distribution code P and the amounts you mentioned. There's no penalty for the loss portion. The IRS only requires you to withdraw the actual value of the excess contribution at the time of withdrawal, not the original amount contributed. So your approach of withdrawing $740.25 instead of the full $800 is exactly right - the difference is simply an investment loss.
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Haley Stokes
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Asher Levin
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Serene Snow
•Does it handle complicated situations? I have excess contributions but also did a backdoor Roth that same year. My broker is also not sending the 1099-R until next year and I'm completely lost on how to report everything.
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Haley Stokes
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Serene Snow
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Issac Nightingale
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Romeo Barrett
•Wait, how does this actually work? Do they just call the IRS for you? Couldn't I just do that myself?
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Marina Hendrix
•Yeah right. Nobody gets through to the IRS in 20 minutes. I've spent literal DAYS trying to get someone on the phone about a similar issue. If this actually worked, wouldn't everyone be using it?
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Issac Nightingale
•They use a system that navigates the IRS phone tree and holds your place in line, then calls you when an agent is about to pick up. You could technically do it yourself, but you'd have to stay on hold for hours. This way you can go about your day and just get the call when an agent is ready. It absolutely works - that's why I recommended it. Most people don't know about it yet, and honestly I was skeptical too. But after spending 3+ hours on hold myself multiple times and getting disconnected, I tried it as a last resort. Got a call back in 22 minutes with an actual IRS agent ready to talk. The agent I spoke with definitively answered my excess contribution reporting question and I filed with confidence.
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Marina Hendrix
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Justin Trejo
Something else to consider - the net income attributable (NIA) to your excess contribution might be taxable even if you're removing the excess before the deadline. If your fund lost money (sounds like it did), you don't pay tax on the loss. But if there had been gains, those would be taxable in the year you take the distribution (2024 in your case). That's probably why Box 2a would show $0 - because there were no earnings on the excess amount to be taxed.
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Monique Byrd
•Thanks for pointing that out about the NIA! So since my investments lost value and I only withdrew what was left ($740.25 from the original $800), I assume I don't have to report any income from this correction, right? I just need to make sure the 1099-R is properly accounted for with code P?
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Justin Trejo
•That's exactly right. Since you experienced a loss rather than earnings, there's no taxable amount to report. You just need to make sure you properly document the removal with code P on your return. One additional tip - keep detailed records of this transaction, including any communications with your broker about the excess contribution removal. If you're ever questioned about it, having that paper trail will be invaluable, especially since you're filing without the official 1099-R in hand.
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Alana Willis
Has anyone used TurboTax to report this kind of situation? I'm having trouble finding where to manually enter a 1099-R that I haven't received yet.
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Tyler Murphy
•In TurboTax, go to "Income" then "Retirement Plans and Social Security" and select "IRA, 401(k), Pension Plan Withdrawals (1099-R)". Then click "Add a 1099-R" and select "I'll type in my 1099-R". You can then enter all the info manually including the distribution code P for excess contribution removal.
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Pedro Sawyer
One thing that might help ease your concerns - I had almost the exact same situation last year. Made an excess contribution, caught it early, removed it before the deadline, but didn't get the 1099-R until the following January. I filed my taxes self-reporting the distribution with code P just like you're planning to do. When I eventually received the official 1099-R the next year, all the numbers matched perfectly with what I had self-reported. No issues, no amended returns needed. The key is being accurate with your amounts and using the correct distribution code. Since you documented everything and have your broker statements showing the withdrawal, you should be fine. Just make sure to keep all those records in case the IRS ever asks for verification down the road. Your approach with the $740.25 withdrawal amount is correct - you only need to remove what's actually there after any investment changes. Good luck with your filing!
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