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How to Report Gains on Excess Roth IRA Contribution After Withdrawal

I messed up big time on my Roth IRA this year. I went ahead and maxed out my contributions for 2024 ($7,000), but then realized I'm not eligible because I'm married filing separately and living with my spouse. Ugh! Once I figured this out, I immediately contacted my brokerage and withdrew both my contribution and the gains it had made (about $450). I know I need to pay taxes on those gains, but here's where I'm confused - I won't be getting a 1099-R for this transaction since it's happening during the same tax year as the contribution. So how do I properly report this on my tax return? Is this the right approach? 1. Call my brokerage to get the exact amount of the earnings 2. Go back to my tax return and report it as if I received a 1099-R, using the amount the brokerage provides Has anyone dealt with this Roth IRA excess contribution situation before? I want to make sure I'm handling this correctly and not missing anything important. I definitely don't want to deal with penalties later! Thanks for any help!

You're on the right track with your plan! When you make an excess contribution to a Roth IRA and withdraw it (plus earnings) before the tax filing deadline, you're handling it correctly to avoid the 6% excess contribution penalty. For reporting purposes, since you're withdrawing in the same tax year as the contribution, you'll need to report the earnings portion only. The contribution amount comes back to you tax-free since it was after-tax money to begin with. Your steps are almost correct. First, definitely contact your brokerage to get the exact amount of earnings attributed to that excess contribution. Then, when filing your taxes, you'll report those earnings as "Other Income" on Schedule 1, Line 8z of Form 1040. You should write "Roth IRA Earnings" next to it. You typically don't report it as if you received a 1099-R since this is a correction of an excess contribution made in the same year. These earnings will be subject to regular income tax, and since you're under 59½ (I'm assuming), they'll also be subject to the 10% early withdrawal penalty unless you qualify for an exception.

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Thanks for the clarification! I thought we always had to report it as if we received a 1099-R. But you're saying for same-year corrections, it goes on Schedule 1 as "Other Income" instead? Is this specifically because it's happening in the same tax year rather than after filing?

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You're exactly right - the timing makes all the difference in how it's reported. When you correct an excess contribution in the same tax year it was made, before filing your return, you report the earnings as "Other Income" on Schedule 1. If you were correcting an excess contribution from a previous tax year, then you would typically receive a 1099-R and report it according to the distribution codes on that form. The IRS treats same-year corrections differently because they're considered corrections rather than distributions in the traditional sense.

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How exactly does it work? Do you just upload your documents and it tells you what to do? I'm in a similar situation but my excess contribution was from contributing to both a 401k and Roth IRA beyond the combined limits.

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It absolutely works - they have some technology that navigates the IRS phone system and holds your place in line. When an agent is about to be connected, you get a call back and are connected directly to the actual IRS. The agents identify themselves just like when you call directly, and they have access to your tax records if you provide your information. This isn't some third-party advice service - it's literally just a way to get through the IRS phone system without waiting for hours or getting disconnected. The advice I got was specific to my situation with details about form numbers and line items for reporting excess Roth IRA contribution earnings, which isn't something a scammer would know.

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Just wanted to add a small but important detail I learned after dealing with this exact situation last year. When you contact your brokerage for the earnings amount, make sure you specifically ask for the "net income attributable" to the excess contribution. Some brokerages calculate this slightly differently than you might expect. They don't just look at the overall account growth and prorate it - they use a specific formula required by the IRS that factors in the timing of the contribution and the withdrawal. In my case, Vanguard initially gave me just a general earnings figure, but when I specifically asked for the "net income attributable to the excess contribution," I got a different (lower) number that was the correct one to report.

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Thank you so much for pointing this out! I wouldn't have known to ask for the "net income attributable" specifically. When you got this figure from your brokerage, did they provide any documentation that you could keep for your records in case of an audit?

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Yes, they did provide documentation! I specifically requested a letter confirming the excess contribution, the net income attributable calculation, and the date of removal. They sent me a PDF on letterhead that itemized the original contribution amount, the calculated earnings, and the total withdrawal amount. I'd definitely recommend asking for this documentation rather than just getting the number over the phone. Having that official paper trail saved me a lot of stress during tax filing, and it's something you can keep with your tax records in case questions ever come up. Most major brokerages have a standardized process for providing this since excess contributions happen fairly often.

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A word of caution from someone who's been through this - make sure you confirm whether your state tax return has different requirements for reporting these excess contribution earnings! I'm in California, and while I reported the earnings correctly on my federal return as "Other Income" on Schedule 1, I discovered that California wanted it reported differently on my state return. I ended up having to file an amendment because of this. Some states follow the federal treatment, but others have their own rules about how retirement account corrections should be handled. Worth checking your state's department of revenue website or calling them directly to confirm.

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This is such an important point that gets overlooked! Do you remember specifically how California wanted it reported? I'm in NY and wondering if I need to look into state-specific rules too.

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One more thing to consider - if you had a loss instead of a gain on your excess contribution (which can happen in down markets), the reporting is slightly different. If your excess contribution actually lost value between when you contributed and when you withdrew it, you unfortunately cannot claim that loss on your tax return when making a same-year correction. You would simply withdraw the reduced amount and report nothing on your tax return. However, if you're correcting a prior year excess contribution and experience a loss, there are specific rules about how you can claim that loss (typically as a miscellaneous itemized deduction subject to the 2% AGI floor - though this is currently suspended through 2025). Just mentioning this for completeness since the market has been volatile!

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Wait, so if my excess contribution from 2023 (that I'm correcting in 2024) lost money, I can't deduct that loss at all until after 2025? That seems unfair when we have to pay taxes on gains!

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