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Def been thru this last yr. The 846 date is NOT when u get the check. IRS sends the $ info to Treasury on that date, then Treasury prints checks in batches 2x/week. Depending on when ur 846 hits their schedule, could be 1-10 days b4 it's actually printed. Then USPS takes 3-5 biz days. Pro tip: DO NOT CALL the regular IRS # to check status - complete waste of time. They'll just read the same transcript info u already have. Ask me how I know š
I feel your pain! Last year I called the IRS 17 times over three days trying to get info about my check. When I finally got through, they told me exactly what was already on my transcript. I was so frustrated I almost cried on the phone. The agent actually seemed embarrassed they couldn't give me better information.
Is there any way to expedite a paper check in situations like this? I'm wondering if a hardship case can be made if someone really needs the funds urgently? I've heard the Taxpayer Advocate Service can help in some situations, but I'm not sure if this qualifies as a true hardship under their guidelines.
Hey there! I totally understand your stress - been in this exact situation before! š Just to add to what everyone else has shared, I went through this nightmare in 2022. My 846 date was March 3rd, and I actually received my check on March 17th - so exactly 2 weeks later. The key thing to remember is that the 846 date triggers a whole chain of events: IRS sends payment instructions to Treasury ā Treasury prints the check ā USPS delivers it. Each step takes time. For planning with your contractors, I'd honestly tell them to expect payment around March 20th to be safe. Also, definitely sign up for USPS Informed Delivery like Savannah mentioned - it was a lifesaver for my anxiety! You'll literally see a photo of your check in your email before it hits your mailbox. Hang in there, the money WILL come! šŖ
Thanks for sharing your timeline, Ravi! As someone new to this whole tax refund process, it's really helpful to see actual real-world examples. Two weeks from the 846 date seems to be pretty consistent based on what everyone's saying. I'm curious though - did you have any way to track the check once it was actually mailed, or was USPS Informed Delivery the only visibility you had? I'm dealing with a similar situation for the first time and trying to figure out all my options for staying informed without going crazy with worry! š
im in the exact same situation. filed on jan 22, accepted jan 23, then yesterday saw it flip to pending and back to accepted. From what i can gather online this is totally normal and just means your return is moving through their process. as long as it went back to accepted u should be fine
I've been through this exact same situation multiple times over the years. The status flip from Accepted to Pending and back is actually a good sign - it means your return is actively being processed rather than just sitting in a queue. When the estimated refund date disappears, it's usually because the IRS system is recalculating timing based on current processing volumes. Since you mentioned you claimed EIC, that explains everything - those returns are held until mid-February regardless of when you file due to the PATH Act. Your 21-day processing window basically starts around February 15th, so you're looking at early March for your refund. The status changes you're seeing are just the system preparing your return for the next phase of processing now that the PATH Act hold period is ending. Nothing to worry about at all!
I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now! My business partner and I also completely missed filing our 1065 while our personal taxes were handled correctly. One thing I learned from my CPA is that you should also check if your partnership has any automatic extension that might still be in effect. If you filed Form 7004 for an extension on the partnership return (even if you forgot you did), you might have until September 15th instead of the original March deadline. Also, when you draft your reasonable cause letter, be very specific about the miscommunication with your tax preparer. The IRS tends to be more lenient when there's a clear third-party error involved, especially if you can document that you gave the preparer all the necessary information and had a reasonable expectation that they would handle all required filings. Keep all your communications with the original tax preparation service - emails, receipts, any written agreements about what services they were supposed to provide. This documentation could be crucial for your penalty abatement request.
That's really helpful advice about checking for any automatic extensions! I hadn't even thought about that possibility. We definitely didn't file a Form 7004 ourselves, but I wonder if our tax preparation service might have filed one automatically as part of their standard process. I'll need to call them and ask. The documentation point is spot on too. I do have emails where I specifically told them about our partnership and asked them to handle "all our tax filings." I also have the invoice showing we paid for both personal and business tax preparation services. Hopefully that will be enough to show the IRS that we reasonably expected them to file the 1065. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's reassuring to know others have dealt with this successfully!
I went through this exact situation two years ago with my wife's consulting partnership. Here's what I learned that might help: First, don't panic - you're not alone and this is fixable. The IRS actually sees this type of error fairly regularly, especially with small partnerships where the income flows through to personal returns. Beyond what others have mentioned about filing the late 1065 and requesting penalty abatement, I'd suggest a few additional steps: 1. Contact your tax preparer immediately and get a written acknowledgment of their error. This will strengthen your reasonable cause argument significantly. Many preparers carry errors and omissions insurance and may even cover any penalties that result from their mistake. 2. File the 1065 as soon as possible, but take time to do it correctly. Double-check that your partnership basis calculations are accurate and that the K-1s reconcile perfectly with what you reported on your personal return. 3. When writing your reasonable cause letter, include a timeline showing your good faith efforts to comply (hiring a professional, providing all necessary documents, etc.) and emphasize that this was an isolated incident in an otherwise clean compliance history. 4. Consider having a different tax professional review everything before filing to catch any other potential issues. The penalties can add up quickly ($220 per partner per month), but with proper documentation of the preparer error and your compliance history, you have a strong case for full abatement. I got mine completely waived using this approach.
This is incredibly thorough advice! I especially appreciate the point about getting written acknowledgment from the tax preparer - I hadn't thought about their potential liability in this situation. Do you happen to know if there's a specific timeframe for how long after discovering the error you need to contact them? I'm wondering if waiting too long might weaken that part of the reasonable cause argument. Also, when you mention having a different professional review everything, did you find that the new preparer was able to spot issues that the original one missed beyond just the unfiled 1065? I'm starting to worry there might be other problems lurking that we haven't discovered yet.
dont trust wmr its trash. transcripts are the only way to know for sure. or use that taxr thing everyone keeps talking about idk
Same situation here! Cycle 05 with TurboTax fees and Chime. PATH message disappeared from WMR on Tuesday for me. From what I've read, once PATH is gone and you're weekly cycle, the 846 should post on your next transcript update day. Friday mornings are usually when we see the magic happen! š¤ Keep checking around 3-6am EST. The waiting game is brutal but we're almost there!
Aiden O'Connor
Has anyone here dealt with reporting suspended EBIE on partner tax returns when there's a partial disposition of a partnership interest? The regulations aren't super clear on how to allocate the suspended EBIE in that scenario.
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Zoe Papadopoulos
ā¢In a partial disposition, you generally allocate the suspended EBIE proportionally to the portion of the partnership interest being disposed of. So if you're selling 25% of your interest, 25% of the suspended EBIE would adjust your basis prior to calculating gain/loss, while 75% would remain suspended.
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Keisha Thompson
This is a complex area that I've been wrestling with in my practice as well. One thing to keep in mind is that the proposed regulations under 163(j) specifically address the treatment of suspended EBIE when partnerships change their election status. Even though Partnership A is making the 163(j) election going forward, the suspended EBIE from 2018 and 2019 doesn't just disappear. The key is understanding that this suspended amount is tracked at the partner level, not the partnership level. Each partner maintains their own "bucket" of suspended EBIE from each partnership. Beyond the CARES Act relief allowing 50% deduction of 2019 EBIE, the remaining suspended amounts will indeed carry forward until one of the triggering events occurs - either the partnership generates excess taxable income/excess business interest income in future years, or the partner disposes of their interest. What's interesting about your situation is that even with the 163(j) election, Partnership A could still potentially generate excess amounts in future years if its income profile changes significantly. The election doesn't permanently eliminate this possibility, it just makes it less likely given the trade-off you're making with depreciation periods. I'd recommend keeping detailed records of each partner's suspended EBIE by year and partnership, as this will be crucial for proper reporting when disposition or other triggering events eventually occur.
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Omar Fawaz
ā¢This is really helpful context about the partner-level tracking versus partnership-level tracking. I've been getting confused about where the responsibility lies for maintaining these records. One follow-up question - when you mention that Partnership A could still potentially generate excess amounts in future years even with the 163(j) election, what would be the most common scenarios where this might happen? I'm trying to help my partners understand whether they should expect their suspended EBIE to remain in limbo indefinitely or if there are realistic paths for it to be utilized before disposition. Also, are there any specific record-keeping requirements or forms that partners need to maintain for tracking this suspended EBIE? I want to make sure we're documenting everything properly from the start.
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