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Nia Johnson

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Has anyone here actually had success getting the penalties reduced? I'm amending several years and looking at almost as much in penalties as the original tax! This is so frustrating, especially since I'm trying to do the right thing by amending.

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CyberNinja

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Yes! I was able to get my penalties reduced by calling and explaining that I had reasonable cause - in my case, I had medical issues during the original filing period and didn't have all the correct information. They reduced the penalties by about 70%. They were surprisingly understanding once I actually got to talk to someone.

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I've been through this exact scenario with a 2018 amended return that resulted in owing about $4,200 additional. Here's what I learned from the experience: The good news is that since you filed your original 2019 return on time, you won't face the failure-to-file penalty on your amended return. That's a huge relief because that 5% monthly penalty can add up fast. However, you will owe: - Failure-to-pay penalty: 0.5% per month on the unpaid tax from April 15, 2020 (or July 15, 2020 if you had the COVID extension) until paid - Interest: This compounds daily and the rates have fluctuated quite a bit since 2020 For context, my penalties and interest on that $4,200 ended up being about $1,800 total by the time I paid in late 2022. The interest was actually the bigger component since it had been accumulating for several years. One tip: when you file Form 1040X, make your best estimate of penalties and interest and pay it with the return. Even if you're slightly off, it shows good faith and stops the clock on further accumulation. The IRS will adjust and either refund any overpayment or bill you for any shortage. Also consider requesting First Time Penalty Abatement if you qualify - it can eliminate the failure-to-pay penalty portion, though not the interest.

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Mei Liu

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This is really helpful, thanks for sharing your actual experience with the numbers! I'm curious - when you say you made your "best estimate" of penalties and interest, how did you calculate that? Did you use any specific tools or formulas, or just rough math? I'm trying to avoid underpaying significantly since I don't want to deal with additional bills later.

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This exact issue cost us thousands last year. Check if ProSystem has the "Special Allocations" menu enabled for your partnership return. Sometimes section 59(e) fields are hidden unless you activate that module since they're considered special allocations. Also, make sure that in your C-corp return you've properly identified that you have partnership interests. Some tax software has quirks where partnership-related deductions won't show up unless you've properly set up the ownership structure.

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Pedro Sawyer

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Is this still an issue in the 2024 version of ProSystem? I thought they fixed a lot of these interface problems in the last update.

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Owen Devar

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I've dealt with this exact ProSystem FX issue before. The problem is likely that you need to enable the "Research and Experimental Expenditures" module in the partnership setup before Box 13J becomes available for data entry. Go to the partnership interview and look for questions about whether the partnership has research expenses, exploration costs, or other section 59(e) qualifying expenditures. If you answer "yes" to these screening questions, it should unlock the Box 13J field on the K-1. Once the partnership properly reports these expenditures on your C-corp's K-1, you'll make the actual 59(e) election on Form 4562 in your corporate return. The election lets you choose between immediate deduction or 10-year amortization of the qualifying expenses. Also worth noting - if your partnership has multiple types of section 59(e) expenditures (like both R&D and mineral exploration), make sure they're being separated properly on the K-1 since the election periods can differ.

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This is incredibly helpful! I've been struggling with this exact issue for weeks. Just to clarify - when you say "Research and Experimental Expenditures" module, is this something I need to purchase separately or should it be included in the standard ProSystem FX package? I'm wondering if my firm's license doesn't include all the specialty modules, which might explain why I can't access certain fields. Also, do you know if there's a way to retroactively fix this for prior year returns where we might have missed reporting these expenditures properly?

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I just went through this exact situation last tax season! My employer has a similar wellness program where we get cash bonuses for activity goals. After doing a lot of research and talking to my tax preparer, here's what I learned: The wellness rewards are definitely taxable income (which you already know), but unfortunately the Fitbit purchase isn't deductible as an employee expense anymore due to the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act changes. However, I'd strongly recommend checking with your HR department about reimbursement options. Many companies have wellness stipends or equipment allowances that they don't advertise well. My company ended up having a $200 annual wellness reimbursement that I never knew about - it was buried in our benefits documentation. Also, if you have an HSA, you might be able to use those funds if your doctor writes a Letter of Medical Necessity stating the device is needed for a specific health condition (like monitoring heart rate for a cardiac condition). This is a long shot for general wellness use, but worth exploring if you have any documented health issues. The bottom line is that trying to deduct it on your taxes probably won't work, but there are other avenues through your employer or HSA that might help offset the cost.

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Vince Eh

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to this community but dealing with a very similar situation. My company just started a wellness program this year and I had no idea about potential reimbursement options. Quick question - when you say "Letter of Medical Necessity" for HSA use, does that need to be from any doctor or specifically your primary care physician? I have a cardiologist who might be willing to document that heart rate monitoring would be beneficial for my condition, but I'm not sure if that would meet the HSA requirements. Also, did your company's wellness reimbursement require any specific documentation or was it just a matter of submitting the receipt?

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@Vince Eh Great questions! For the Letter of Medical Necessity, it can be from any licensed physician who is treating you for the relevant condition - so your cardiologist would definitely be appropriate for heart rate monitoring documentation. The key is that they need to document that the device is medically necessary for managing or monitoring your specific condition, not just for general wellness. For my company s'wellness reimbursement, I just had to submit the receipt along with a simple form explaining how it related to our wellness program. Some companies are stricter and require pre-approval, so definitely check with HR first. The whole process was surprisingly straightforward once I found out about it. One tip: when you talk to HR, ask specifically about wellness "stipends, health" "equipment reimbursement, or" fitness "allowances -" sometimes they re'called different things in different companies and the person you re'talking to might not immediately know what you mean if you just ask about Fitbit "reimbursement.

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Rudy Cenizo

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I'm dealing with almost the exact same situation! My company requires us to use fitness trackers for their wellness program, and I had to buy an Apple Watch specifically for it since my old basic fitness tracker wasn't compatible with their app. One thing I discovered that might help - check if your company participates in any "lifestyle spending accounts" or "wellness accounts" through your benefits provider. These are separate from HSAs/FSAs and are specifically designed for wellness-related purchases. My company offers a $300 annual allowance through Lifestyle Spending Account that covers fitness trackers, gym memberships, and other wellness expenses. Also, even though the fitness tracker itself isn't tax deductible, make sure you're keeping detailed records of all your wellness program participation. Some companies offer additional tax-advantaged benefits for employees who consistently meet wellness goals - like premium discounts on health insurance or contributions to HSAs that you might not be aware of. The tax situation is frustrating, but there are definitely workarounds if you dig into all your available benefits!

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Leila Haddad

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That's really helpful about the Lifestyle Spending Accounts! I had never heard of those before. Do you know if these are something that companies have to specifically set up, or are they available through most major benefits providers? I'm wondering if I should ask my HR about this option since my company is pretty good about offering various benefits but doesn't always communicate them well. Also, you mentioned keeping detailed records of wellness program participation - are there specific things you track beyond just the basic activity metrics? I'm curious if documenting things like program completion certificates or goal achievement records could be useful for anything tax-related down the line. The Apple Watch requirement sounds frustrating since those are so much more expensive than basic fitness trackers! Did your company end up covering any of that cost difference?

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Jacob Lewis

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Based on what you've described, I'd definitely recommend setting that $3,200 aside for at least 6 months to be safe. The IRS does have automated systems that continue checking returns even after refunds are issued, and questionable deductions are one of the things they look for. If you're genuinely unsure about those deductions, you might want to consider filing an amended return to correct any mistakes before the IRS potentially finds them. It's always better to fix errors proactively rather than wait for them to catch it - you'll avoid penalties and the stress of dealing with IRS notices. The good news is that if they were honest mistakes and not huge amounts, you're looking at paying back the incorrect refund plus interest, not massive penalties. But yeah, definitely don't spend that money until you're confident everything was filed correctly!

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Zara Shah

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This is solid advice! I'm actually in a similar situation - got a bigger refund than expected and have been wondering if I should touch the money. Your point about filing an amended return proactively really makes sense. Better to control the situation yourself than wait for a surprise letter from the IRS months later. How long does it usually take to process an amended return? I'm thinking if I'm going to do this, I should probably get started soon rather than keep worrying about it.

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Ethan Moore

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You're smart to be thinking about this now! From my experience, amended returns typically take 16-20 weeks to process, though it can vary depending on complexity and IRS workload. The sooner you file it, the sooner you'll have peace of mind. When you file Form 1040X (amended return), you'll need to explain what you're changing and why. If you end up owing money, you can pay it with the amendment to avoid additional interest charges. If you're not sure exactly what needs to be corrected, you might want to consult with a tax professional or use one of those AI review services others mentioned to identify the specific issues before filing the amendment. The key is being proactive - the IRS looks more favorably on taxpayers who catch and correct their own mistakes versus those who get caught later during an audit.

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Something else to consider - make sure you're using the correct year's Form 982. The form changed slightly a couple years ago, and I accidentally used an outdated version at first. You can get the current form directly from the IRS website. Also worth noting that if you had multiple debts discharged in bankruptcy, you'll need to account for all of them on Form 982, not just the ones where you received a 1099-C. Some creditors don't send 1099-Cs for debts discharged in bankruptcy even though they're supposed to.

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Ryder Greene

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Do you know if mortgage deficiency forgiveness is handled the same way with Form 982? My home was included in my bankruptcy but I got a 1099-C with code G for the deficiency amount.

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Donna Cline

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I went through this exact situation and can confirm what others have said - you don't need to stress about getting the 1099-C corrected before filing. The code G vs code A issue is actually pretty common with creditors who don't fully understand bankruptcy procedures. Here's what worked for me: I filed Form 982 checking box 1a for "Discharge of indebtedness in a title 11 case" and included the full amount from the 1099-C in Part II. I also attached a brief statement to my return explaining that the debt was discharged in Chapter 7 bankruptcy despite the incorrect reporting code on the 1099-C. The key is having your bankruptcy discharge paperwork readily available in case the IRS has questions later. I kept copies of my discharge order and the creditor matrix showing this specific debt was included. Never had any issues with my return being accepted or processed. Don't let the incorrect code cause you to delay filing - Form 982 is specifically designed to handle these situations regardless of how the creditor coded the cancellation.

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who's actually been through it! I'm still pretty new to understanding all this tax stuff after bankruptcy, but it sounds like the main thing is just making sure you have all your documentation organized. Did you end up getting any follow-up questions from the IRS about your return, or did it go through without any issues? I'm just trying to get a sense of what to expect since this is all so overwhelming.

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Jayden Hill

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@Molly Chambers No follow-up questions at all! My return processed normally and I got my refund on the expected timeline. I think the key was being proactive with that explanatory statement - it probably saved the IRS processing team from having to flag it for review since everything was clearly documented upfront. The most important thing is just keeping good records. I made a simple folder with my bankruptcy discharge order, the schedules showing which debts were included, and copies of any 1099-Cs I received. That way if there were ever questions down the road, I d'have everything organized and ready to go. But honestly, once you file Form 982 correctly and your return is accepted, you re'pretty much in the clear!

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