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just wanna point out - the person with higher income isn't always the best choice! when i was making less than my bf, i got way more back from earned income credit when i claimed our daughter. we got almost $2k more by having me claim her even tho he made like $15k more than me that year. the credit phases out at higher incomes. so sometimes the lower earner actually gets more benefit. definitely worth checking both ways!
This is so true! My sister and her bf discovered the same thing. She makes about $32k and he makes around $70k. When she claimed their twins, they got back almost $4k more as a household than when he claimed them. The Earned Income Credit is huge for lower income parents.
That's really interesting and super helpful! I had no idea that sometimes the lower earner would get more benefit. $2k is a huge difference - definitely gonna run the numbers both ways like others suggested. Thanks for sharing your experience!
One thing I don't see mentioned here yet is that if your partner can file as Head of Household (which they likely can if they claim your daughter), that filing status alone can save a significant amount compared to filing Single. The HOH standard deduction is much higher and the tax brackets are more favorable. Also wanted to add - make sure whoever claims your daughter also claims any childcare expenses if you're paying for daycare. The Child and Dependent Care Credit can be worth up to $1,050 for one child (20% of up to $5,250 in expenses). This credit has to go with whoever claims the dependent, so factor that into your calculations too. Given your income levels ($42k vs $58k), I'd definitely recommend running the numbers both ways like others suggested. The Earned Income Credit phases out around $50k for someone with one child, so there's a good chance you claiming her might actually result in a better overall refund for your household, especially if you're paying for daycare.
This is really comprehensive advice, thank you! I hadn't thought about the Head of Household filing status difference - that sounds like it could be a big factor. We do pay about $800/month for daycare so that credit could definitely add up over the year. The income levels you mentioned make a lot of sense too. Since I'm at $42k and my partner is at $58k, it sounds like I might be in a better position for the Earned Income Credit. Definitely going to calculate both scenarios now before we decide. Really appreciate all the detailed info!
If I remember correctly, H&R Block actually updated their software in mid-February last tax season to include the current year for new IRA accounts. It might be worth checking for updates or waiting a couple weeks to see if they push an update that adds 2023 as an option. Also, keep in mind that Roth IRA contributions don't directly impact your tax refund or amount owed (unlike Traditional IRA contributions), so even if you have to select "None" for now, it shouldn't change your tax outcome. The IRS just wants to track your basis for when you eventually take distributions.
Thanks for this info! I'll check for updates to see if they add 2023 as an option. Do you think there's a risk of getting audited if I have to select "None" when I actually opened it in 2023? I'm paranoid about making mistakes on tax forms.
There's virtually no risk of being audited for selecting "None" when the correct year isn't available as an option. The IRS understands the limitations of tax software and is primarily concerned with accurate reporting of contribution amounts, not the specific year you opened the account. Your financial institution will be sending the IRS a Form 5498 in May that will confirm your contribution and when the account was opened, so the information will be properly documented regardless of what the software allows you to select now.
Ok everyone is overthinking this. H&R Block asks for your Roth IRA basis mainly to track your non-deductible contributions over time. The "basis" is just a fancy word for "money you already paid tax on." Since Roth contributions are made with after-tax money, all your contributions become your basis. For a brand new account with your first contribution ever, your basis is simply the amount you contributed. About the year selection issue - this happens EVERY year with tax software! They're always a bit behind.
Thank you for explaining it so simply! I've been googling "Roth IRA basis" for hours and getting complicated explanations. So for my situation, if I contributed $3000 to my Roth IRA in 2023 (first time ever), my basis is just $3000, right?
Exactly right! Your basis would be $3000. It really is that straightforward for new accounts. The IRS just wants to track how much of your own after-tax money you've put into Roth accounts so that when you withdraw contributions later (which you can do tax-free anytime), they know you're not withdrawing earnings that should be taxed or penalized.
I completely understand your frustration with Worksheet B! I went through the same confusion when I first encountered it. What helped me was realizing that Worksheet B is essentially doing a "pre-check" to see if your income is high enough to trigger the phase-out rules for the Child Tax Credit. Think of it as two separate questions the IRS needs answered: 1) How much Child Tax Credit would you normally get? and 2) Does your income require us to reduce that amount? Worksheet B handles question #2 entirely. All those intermediate calculations on lines 1-14 are working through a complex formula that considers your filing status, number of children, and modified adjusted gross income to determine exactly how much (if any) your credit should be reduced. The IRS could have made this a simple percentage calculation, but the phase-out rules are actually quite nuanced and vary based on multiple factors. Line 15 represents your "final allowable credit" after all income limitations are applied, which is why it's the only number that transfers back. The other calculations served their purpose in getting you to that final number - they're not "wasted" math, they're the foundation that Line 15 is built on. It's definitely one of the more confusing parts of tax preparation, but once you understand the logic behind it, it makes more sense!
This is exactly the kind of clear explanation I needed! The "pre-check" analogy really helps me understand what's happening. I was getting so hung up on thinking that every calculation had to feed into another form somewhere, but you're right - those intermediate steps are building the foundation for that final Line 15 number. It's like the IRS is showing you all the components that go into determining your final credit amount, even though only the end result matters for your return. I appreciate you taking the time to break down the logic behind why they structure it this way - it definitely makes the whole process feel less mysterious and arbitrary!
I totally get your confusion! I had the exact same reaction when I first dealt with Schedule 8812. After staring at it for way too long, I finally figured out that Worksheet B is basically the IRS's way of double-checking whether your income is low enough to get the full Child Tax Credit. Here's what's really happening: Lines 1-14 are walking through a step-by-step income test. The IRS needs to know if you're in the "phase-out range" where high earners start losing some of their credit. All those calculations are determining exactly how much of your credit (if any) gets taken away because of your income level. Line 15 is the magic number because it's your credit amount AFTER they've applied any income-based reductions. That's why it's the only one that goes back to Worksheet A - it's your actual allowable credit, not just a piece of the calculation. Think of it like this: the IRS gives you a credit, but then they have to run it through this income filter to see if you get to keep all of it. Worksheet B IS that filter, and Line 15 is what comes out the other side. The rest of the math is just showing you how the filter works, even though you never see those intermediate numbers again. Hope that helps clear up the mystery!
Quick question - if I'm buying parts specifically for projects I'm filming, but then I keep the final product (like a robot or whatever), does that affect my ability to deduct the costs? Like am I supposed to count the finished item as inventory or something?
That's a great question! The parts used in your projects are still considered legitimate business expenses even if you keep the final product. The key is that your primary business purpose is creating content about the building process, not selling the finished items.
Great question! I'm also a content creator (cooking channel) and went through this same confusion when I started. You definitely don't need an LLC to deduct business expenses - you can claim them as a sole proprietor on Schedule C. One thing I learned the hard way is to keep really detailed records from day one. Don't just save receipts - note what each purchase was for and how it relates to your content. For example, "Arduino Uno R3 - used in Episode 12: Smart Home Door Lock Project" is much better documentation than just "electronics." Also consider setting up a separate bank account for your YouTube business even if you don't form an LLC. It makes tracking expenses so much easier when tax time comes around, and it shows the IRS you're treating this as a legitimate business rather than a hobby. The business vs hobby distinction can be important for deduction purposes. Your equipment purchases sound totally legitimate for a tech YouTube channel. Just make sure you're documenting how each item is used for business purposes!
This is super helpful advice about the separate bank account! I'm just getting started with my channel and have been mixing everything in my personal account. How complicated is it to set up a business account as a sole proprietor? Do most banks require a bunch of paperwork, or can you just walk in and open one with your SSN? Also, when you mention documenting purchases with episode numbers - do you do this retroactively when you use the item, or do you try to plan out what each purchase will be used for ahead of time? I tend to buy components in bulk and then use them across multiple projects.
Manny Lark
Honestly from what you described it sounds like you qualify as Head of Household AND should claim the child, but run the numbers both ways! I helped my sister and her bf figure this out - they entered their info in TurboTax both ways (her claiming vs him claiming) and there was a $1200 difference in their combined refund amount. Tax software makes it easy to check both scenarios.
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Luca Romano
Based on your situation, you have a few key decisions to make that could significantly impact your tax benefits. Since you own the home, pay most expenses, and your daughter lives with you more than half the year, you likely qualify for Head of Household filing status - which is much better than Single. However, the bigger question is who should claim your daughter as a dependent. With your girlfriend's income at $18K, she might benefit more from claiming the child due to the Earned Income Credit, which phases out at higher incomes like yours. The EITC can be worth several thousand dollars for someone at her income level with a qualifying child. I'd strongly recommend running the numbers both ways before deciding. You could use tax software to calculate your combined household refund under both scenarios (you claiming her vs. your girlfriend claiming her). Many couples find that having the lower-income parent claim the child results in a larger total refund for the household, even though the higher-income parent loses out on Head of Household status. Also remember that your daughter qualifies for the full Child Tax Credit since she was born during the tax year, regardless of who claims her. The key is figuring out which arrangement maximizes your family's total tax benefit.
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