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11 Your sister may be in for a surprise. Venmo is owned by PayPal, and they've been cracking down on business transactions labeled as personal. They're getting better at detecting patterns that look like business activity even when marked as "friends and family." For 2025 taxes (covering 2024 income), payment apps are supposed to report to the IRS when someone receives over $600 in business transactions, not the old $20,000 threshold. So she might actually get a 1099-K even if she thinks she's flying under the radar.

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14 This is correct. The threshold was supposed to drop to $600 earlier but it got delayed. But it's definitely happening for this tax year. I work with several freelancers who are now getting 1099-Ks for much smaller amounts than before.

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Your sister is playing with fire here. I've seen this exact scenario play out badly for several people in my tax practice. The "friends and family" labeling on Venmo doesn't magically make business income disappear - it's still taxable regardless of how it's categorized or whether she receives a 1099. With $44k total income ($35k Venmo + $9k Rover), she's looking at roughly $6,200 in self-employment taxes alone, plus regular income tax on top of that. If she's in the 12% tax bracket, her total tax liability could easily be $8,000-10,000. The scariest part? Since she hasn't been making quarterly payments, she'll likely face underpayment penalties too. The IRS expects self-employed people to pay as they go, not wait until April. She needs to start setting aside money immediately and consider filing an amended return or voluntary disclosure if this has been going on for multiple years. The longer she waits, the worse the penalties get. I'd strongly recommend she consult with a tax professional ASAP - this isn't a DIY situation anymore.

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This is really helpful - thank you for breaking down the actual numbers! As someone new to understanding tax obligations, could you explain what exactly triggers those underpayment penalties? Is there a specific threshold or timeline where the IRS starts adding penalties, or does it happen automatically if you don't make quarterly payments? Also, when you mention "voluntary disclosure" - is that different from just filing a regular amended return? I'm asking because I have a friend in a similar situation and want to make sure I give them the right advice about their options.

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What steps to take after resolving dependent identity theft issue with IRS

I'm finally at a point where I can move forward after a frustrating identity theft situation involving one of my kids. Back in 2021, my e-file was rejected because someone had already claimed one of my children as their dependent. I ended up having to mail in a paper return instead. Then in November 2022, I filed all the identity theft paperwork with the IRS. Just got the response today confirming that yes, my child's identity was used fraudulently. Here's where it gets complicated though. Back in 2022, the IRS recalculated my refund and I got way less than expected. They not only had issues with the stolen identity dependent, but they also removed ANOTHER dependent from my EIC calculation! I originally had 4 dependents in 2021, but the IRS somehow calculated it as only 2. I responded to their recalculation letter within the timeframe they gave, but never heard anything back. Now that the identity theft part is resolved, I want to fix the refund amount. Will the IRS automatically send me the difference now that the identity theft is confirmed? If not, how do I get that process started? For the other dependent they incorrectly removed, should I file an amended return with all the documentation attached? Is there a special department I should send this to? Also, they paid interest on the portion of the refund they eventually sent in 2022. Does that mean I'll get interest on this difference too? I'm planning to send a Form 911 (Taxpayer Advocate request) by Monday. I'm also considering hiring an accountant to help, but my last experience wasn't great - paid a guy who literally did nothing for a year. This isn't small change - we're talking about a $10k difference in my refund! Any advice would be really appreciated.

Has anyone used a CPA with experience in identity theft cases? After reading all these comments, I'm still confused about whether to handle this myself or hire someone. I'm worried about making a mistake that could delay things even further.

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Nia Thompson

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I used a CPA who specialized in tax controversy issues. It cost me $900, but was worth every penny. Regular tax preparers often don't have experience with the identity theft resolution process. Make sure you find someone who has specific experience with Identity Theft cases and the Taxpayer Advocate Service. When interviewing potential CPAs, ask how many identity theft cases they've handled in the last year. If they can't immediately tell you or the number is less than 5, keep looking. Also ask if they handle communication with the IRS directly or if you'll need to do that part yourself.

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Sean Murphy

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I went through a very similar situation with my daughter's identity being stolen for tax purposes. One thing I learned that might help - when you call the IRS Identity Theft line at 800-908-4490, ask specifically for a "case trace" on your 2021 return. This will show you exactly what adjustments they made and why. For the dependent they incorrectly removed from your EIC calculation, you'll definitely need to file Form 1040X as others mentioned, but here's something important - include a cover letter that references your identity theft case number. This helps the IRS connect the two issues and can speed up processing. Regarding the Taxpayer Advocate Service (Form 911), absolutely do this ASAP. With $10K at stake and multiple years of back-and-forth, you clearly meet their criteria for "significant hardship." When filling out the form, be very specific about the financial impact this has had on your family. One more tip - if you do decide to hire professional help, look for an Enrolled Agent (EA) rather than just a regular tax preparer. EAs can represent you directly to the IRS and many specialize in complex cases like identity theft. They're often less expensive than CPAs but have the specialized knowledge you need. The interest calculation should apply to any additional refund amount from the original due date, so that's definitely something to pursue. Good luck - you're doing all the right things!

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I had no idea about asking for a "case trace" - that sounds like exactly what I need to understand what happened with my return. The tip about referencing the identity theft case number in the cover letter for Form 1040X is also really smart. I'm definitely leaning toward hiring an Enrolled Agent now. Do you happen to know if there's a directory or way to search for EAs who specifically handle identity theft cases? I want to make sure I find someone with the right experience this time around. Also, when you mention the case trace will show "exactly what adjustments they made and why" - will this include details about why they removed my other dependent from the EIC calculation? I'm still baffled about how they went from 4 dependents to 2 when only 1 was involved in the identity theft.

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Lukas Nelson

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Please help. I already verified in person August 1st amd tools charged from still being processed to being processed after verification August 7th and been stock on we received your and its being processed since after the verification, my shows code 570 and 810 and I haven't receive any from the ever since I verified

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StarStrider

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Hey Lukas! I'm seeing a lot of people in similar situations lately - it's so frustrating when you do everything right but still get stuck in limbo! 😫 The 570 code means there's a hold for additional review, and 810 is specifically a freeze. Since you verified in person on August 1st and your updated on August 7th, that shows the system recognized your verification which is good! The fact that you're not getting any notices might actually be a positive sign - sometimes they just need time to process everything internally after verification without needing anything else from you. I've seen cases where people wait 4-12 weeks after in-person verification before seeing movement, especially with those specific codes. I'd definitely keep checking your weekly for any new codes or changes. You're looking for the 570/810 to clear and hopefully see an 846 ( issued) eventually. The waiting after verification is honestly the worst part because you've done everything they asked but still have to sit tight. If you hit the 16+ week mark from your original filing date, that's when you can usually get more help from Taxpayer Advocate Service. But since you verified recently in August, you're probably still within their normal processing timeframe unfortunately. Hang in there - you should see some movement soon! šŸ¤ž

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Ava Garcia

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Hey Gisselle! šŸ™‹ā€ā™€ļø I totally feel your stress right now - those 570/971 codes can be so confusing after you've already done verification! But honestly, the fact that your updated from N/A is actually really good news - it means you're back in their system and moving forward. So here's what those codes mean: 570 is basically the saying "hold on, we're still reviewing something" and 971 means they've issued you a notice. Since you already verified, they're probably just doing their final checks - could be income verification, reviewing you claimed, or just standard post-verification processing. The timeline is super frustrating because it varies so much - I've seen people wait anywhere from 2-10 weeks after these codes show up. The should give you more details about what exactly they're looking at, so definitely keep an eye on your mailbox if you haven't gotten it yet. Keep checking your weekly for any new movement - you're looking for that magical 846 code ( issued) to eventually pop up! I know the waiting game is absolutely brutal, especially when you've already jumped through the verification hoops, but you're definitely on the right track. You've gotten through the hardest part already - hang in there! šŸ’ŖāœØ

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Omar Fawaz

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Has anyone used Cash App Tax for self-employment income? I do freelance graphic design and the self-employment taxes always confuse me.

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I used it for my consulting side gig last year. It walks you through the Schedule C stuff pretty well. Just make sure you have good records of all your business expenses because that's where you can save a lot on taxes. It prompted me to consider deductions I hadn't even thought about like a portion of my internet bill and cell phone since I use them for work.

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PaulineW

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I've been using Cash App Tax for the past two years and it's been solid for my situation. I have W-2 income plus some contractor work (1099s), and it handled everything without issues. The interface is clean and asks the right questions to make sure you don't miss anything important. One thing I really appreciate is that it doesn't try to upsell you at every step like some other tax software does. It's genuinely free for federal and state filing, which saved me around $120 compared to what I was paying before. The only downside I've found is that customer support can be slow if you run into problems, but for straightforward tax situations like yours, you probably won't need to contact them. I'd say give it a try - worst case scenario, you can always switch to a professional if you get stuck partway through.

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Lia Quinn

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That Treasury Department letter you got is totally normal - it's just the standard envelope they use for refund checks. The "forgery" and "deceased recipient" text is just boilerplate legal stuff they print on all their mailings, nothing to worry about! Since you got the 846 code on Dec 13, you should definitely have your refund by now (it's been over a month). If you provided direct deposit info on your return, it would go to your bank first before they mail a check. I'd check your bank account and maybe call the IRS to see what's up with the delay. 10 months is way too long to wait!

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GalacticGuru

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Wait, that's really helpful to know about the Treasury letter! I was getting worried about all that legal text but if it's just standard stuff then I feel better. You're right though - it has been way longer than it should be. I'm gonna call them tomorrow and see what's going on. Thanks for breaking that down! šŸ™

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Hey! I went through the exact same thing last year. That Treasury Department letter you got is actually just the standard envelope they use for all refund checks - all that legal text about forgery and deceased recipients is just boilerplate stuff they print on every envelope, so don't stress about it! Since you got the 846 code on Dec 13th and it's now mid-January, you should definitely have received something by now. If you provided direct deposit info when you filed, they would have tried that first before mailing a paper check. I'd suggest calling the IRS refund hotline at 1-800-829-1954 to see what's causing the delay. After waiting 10+ months, you deserve some answers! Also, you might want to check if your bank rejected the deposit for some reason (wrong account number, closed account, etc.) which would trigger them to mail a check instead. Hope you get your money soon! šŸ’°

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