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Anyone know if rental income qualifies for QBI? I have a small design business but also rent out a property, and I'm not sure if the rental income can be included in my QBI calculation.
Rental real estate can qualify for QBI if you meet certain requirements. The IRS has a "safe harbor" rule that considers rental activities as a "trade or business" for QBI purposes if you: 1) Maintain separate books/records for each property 2) Perform at least 250 hours of rental services annually 3) Keep contemporaneous records of these services If you don't meet these requirements, your rental might still qualify based on other factors.
I'm also a freelance graphic designer and went through this same confusion last year! TurboTax's calculation sounds correct based on your income level. At $78,500, you're well below the $170,050 threshold where the "specified service business" restrictions would kick in for single filers. The key thing to understand is that graphic design IS technically a specified service business, but those limitations only matter once you exceed the income thresholds. Below that threshold, you get the full 20% deduction regardless of your business type. I claimed my QBI deduction last year with similar income and had no issues. Just make sure you're reporting everything accurately on Schedule C and that your business expenses are properly documented. The $15,700 deduction (20% of $78,500) is exactly what I'd expect TurboTax to calculate for your situation. One tip: double-check that TurboTax is using your net profit from Schedule C (after business expenses) rather than your gross income for the QBI calculation. That's the most common mistake I see people make.
Has anyone actually successfully gotten an audit where the IRS questioned fiverr expenses? Im in the same boat but ive been just putting everything under "contracted services" on my taxes for my webcomic. ive been doing this for 3 years and no issues...
I had a correspondence audit last year where they questioned some of my Fiverr expenses for voice acting work. What saved me was having detailed invoices from Fiverr that clearly showed what services were provided, plus I had a business plan showing how these expenses contributed to my business model. Without that documentation I probably would have lost those deductions. They specifically wanted to see the connection between the expense and business purpose.
I've been running my digital marketing LLC for about two years and have used Fiverr extensively for graphic design and copywriting services. The key thing I learned (the hard way during a tax review) is that documentation is everything. Yes, your Fiverr payments are absolutely deductible business expenses for your comic book LLC. Since Fiverr acts as the payment processor, you don't need to issue 1099-NECs to individual freelancers - that's Fiverr's responsibility. However, make sure you're keeping detailed records beyond just the Fiverr payment receipts. Save the project descriptions, delivered files, and any communication that shows how each illustration directly relates to your comic book business. I also recommend creating a simple spreadsheet tracking each payment with the chapter number, artist name, and brief description of work. One thing that helped me was setting up a separate business bank account and credit card exclusively for LLC expenses. This creates a clear paper trail and makes it much easier to track business vs personal expenses during tax season. The IRS wants to see that you're operating with a genuine profit motive, so document your business plan, marketing efforts, and steps you're taking toward monetization. Even if you're not profitable yet, showing you're actively working toward profitability helps establish legitimate business intent.
The W-4 situation is even more messed up since they redesigned the form in 2020. My accountant told me that for couples with multiple income sources, the simplest approach is often: 1. Both check the box in Step 2(c) for slightly higher withholding 2. Add an additional fixed dollar amount in Step 4(c) 3. Make quarterly estimated payments for any 1099/rental income Has anyone actually had success with the Two-Earner/Multiple Jobs worksheet? It seems overly complicated.
The Two-Earner worksheet actually worked great for my wife and me once we figured it out. We both have similar salaries though ($70k and $75k), so maybe that's why. The trick was that we only filled out the extra withholding on ONE of our W-4 forms, not both. When we did both, we were massively overwithholding.
Having dealt with a very similar situation (multiple W-2s, rental income, and freelance work), I can definitely relate to the frustration with getting wildly different results from various calculators. One thing that really helped me was realizing that the online IRS calculator doesn't handle multiple income streams very well - it's really designed for simpler situations. What ended up working for me was a hybrid approach: 1. Used the paper Two-Jobs Worksheet for my main W-2 jobs (like others mentioned, only apply the extra withholding to ONE job, not both) 2. Set up quarterly estimated payments for all non-W-2 income (1099-NEC and rental) - I use about 28% of that income as a starting point 3. Added a small buffer ($30/paycheck) in Step 4(c) to account for any miscalculations The quarterly payments were a game-changer for me. Trying to cover everything through W-4 withholding was making the calculations way too complex and unreliable. Once I separated the W-2 withholding from the self-employment/rental tax obligations, everything became much more manageable. Also, don't forget that rental income might qualify for the Section 199A deduction, which could affect your overall tax liability and withholding needs.
Honestly, just use a spreadsheet and fill out the PDF forms directly from the IRS website. If you know what forms you need and understand your taxes well enough to be annoyed by TurboTax's wizard, you probably don't need tax software at all. I've been doing this for years with my LLC. I keep track of income and expenses in Excel, then just transfer the totals to the appropriate lines on Schedule C. Takes me maybe 30 minutes total.
This is terrible advice. The IRS forms don't do calculations for you and don't check for errors. Plus Schedule C is just one form - what about all the other calculations and forms that feed into each other? Not to mention state taxes that vary by location. Using actual tax software dramatically reduces errors and audit risk. Digital filing also gets refunds faster and confirms your return was received.
I completely understand your frustration with TurboTax's wizard approach! As someone who's dealt with similar issues, I'd recommend checking out TaxSlayer Pro. It's designed more for people who know what they're doing and want direct form access. What I really like about TaxSlayer is that you can navigate straight to Schedule C without answering endless screening questions. Their business section is well-organized and lets you input expenses by category efficiently. They also have a forms view where you can see the actual tax forms as you're filling them out, which helps verify everything looks right. The pricing is transparent upfront (unlike TurboTax's surprise fees at the end), and they handle single-member LLC filing seamlessly. State returns are reasonably priced too. I switched two years ago and haven't looked back - saves me probably an hour each tax season just by cutting out the unnecessary hand-holding.
Sean Kelly
Something nobody's mentioned that saved me in a similar situation - check if you qualify for a "special enrollment period" due to having a significant change in income AFTER you initially applied. I had reported my income too low and owed a bunch back until I found out I could document that my income had changed significantly mid-year (got a promotion), which allowed the marketplace to adjust my subsidy for just that portion of the year rather than the whole thing. Saved me about 60% of what I would have owed.
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Zara Mirza
ā¢This is actually really helpful! I'm in almost the same boat as OP. When you did this, did you have to contact the marketplace directly? Or is there a form you fill out with your tax return? And how far off was your estimate from your actual income?
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Aisha Jackson
Hey Malik, I totally feel your stress - I went through something very similar last year and it's such a confusing process! One thing that really helped me was understanding that the marketplace uses "projected" income when you apply, but your actual tax credit eligibility is based on your final Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI) when you file. Since your actual income of $42,000 is definitely under the 400% poverty line threshold, you should still qualify for premium tax credits. The $845 repayment likely means you received more advance credit during the year than you were entitled to based on your final income and circumstances. A few things to double-check on your Form 8962: Make sure you're calculating your MAGI correctly (it includes wages, self-employment income, interest, dividends, etc. but also allows certain deductions). Also verify you're using the right household size and filing status - these can significantly impact your credit amount. If you truly believe there was a substantial error in how your income was initially processed by the marketplace (not just a reasonable difference between projected and actual), you can contact your state marketplace to request a corrected 1095-A. However, this typically only works if there was an actual processing error on their end rather than confusion about what income to report. The good news is even if you do owe the full amount, the IRS has very reasonable payment plan options for amounts under $1000, and it won't hurt your credit score as long as you make the payments. Hang in there!
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