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TurboTax showing error on Form 8995 - anyone else having this issue?

I'm in the middle of filing my taxes and running into a weird issue with my tax software. I operate an S corporation that generated about $192k in business profit this year, reported on my Schedule K-1. When I entered this into the software, it seemed to mess up somehow on Form 8995 (Qualified Business Income Deduction). The software started calculating my QBI deduction, but then it just... stopped? Like it shows the business income but then doesn't complete the calculation correctly. I'm pretty sure I should be getting a decent QBI deduction with this amount of business income, but the software seems to be glitching out. Has anyone else run into this problem? Is there something I'm missing about Form 8995 requirements? I'm worried I might be leaving money on the table if I just submit as is. I'm using the premium version of the software, so it should handle this form correctly.

This is a common issue with Form 8995 in several tax software packages this year. The Qualified Business Income Deduction (QBID) calculation gets tricky with S corporation income. First, check if you exceeded the taxable income threshold limits ($393,900 for married filing jointly or $196,950 for others in 2024). If you're above these thresholds, the software might be correctly limiting your deduction based on W-2 wages or business property. Another possibility is the software might be defaulting to Form 8995-A instead, which is the more complex version required if you exceed those income thresholds or have certain specified service businesses. Look in your forms list to see if 8995-A is there instead of 8995. Also, make sure your business isn't classified as a Specified Service Trade or Business (SSTB), which would affect your QBI deduction calculation. The software might be applying these limitations without clearly explaining it.

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NeonNova

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Thanks for the detailed explanation. Quick question - how would I know if my business is classified as an SSTB? I run a consulting firm, if that matters. Also, does the W-2 wage limitation apply if I only took distributions and no actual salary from my S-corp this year?

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Consulting firms are typically classified as SSTBs, which could explain why your QBI deduction is being limited. The IRS defines SSTBs as businesses where the principal asset is the reputation or skill of one or more employees or owners, including fields like consulting, health, law, accounting, and financial services. The W-2 wage limitation absolutely applies even if you only took distributions. This is actually a red flag - the IRS requires S-corp owners who provide services to take a "reasonable salary" as W-2 wages before taking distributions. If you didn't pay yourself any salary, that's a compliance issue that could trigger an audit. The QBI deduction limits are based on either 50% of W-2 wages paid or 25% of W-2 wages plus 2.5% of qualified property.

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StarSailor

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Another thing to check - are you properly accounting for the 20% limit on taxable income minus net capital gains? This is a common issue with Form 8995 calculations that software sometimes messes up. Your QBI deduction is limited to 20% of your taxable income minus net capital gains. If you had significant capital gains this year, the software might be applying this limitation correctly but not showing you clearly why your deduction is lower than expected. Also verify your AGI is correct since phase-out thresholds are based on that number.

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That's a great point about capital gains. I did sell some stock this year with about $45k in long-term capital gains. Could that be affecting my QBI calculation? The software doesn't seem to be explaining any limitations - it just shows an incomplete calculation.

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StarSailor

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Yes, those capital gains are almost certainly affecting your QBI deduction. Here's why: your QBI deduction is limited to the LESSER of 20% of your qualified business income OR 20% of your taxable income minus net capital gains. With $45k in capital gains, your second limitation (taxable income minus capital gains) is lower, which reduces your available QBI deduction. The software is probably calculating this correctly but failing to show you the detailed limitation steps. This is actually one of the most commonly overlooked aspects of the QBI deduction. If you expand the Form 8995 in your software, look at Line 11 where it should show this alternative limitation calculation. That's likely where the apparent "error" is happening - it's not an error but a limitation that's poorly explained in the interface.

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Has anyone had success with fixing this by switching to a different tax software? I'm having the exact same issue with [popular tax software] but wondering if [competitor] handles Form 8995 better?

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Yara Sabbagh

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I switched from TurboTax to H&R Block this year specifically because of Form 8995 issues. H&R Block's interface shows the calculation steps more clearly and let me see exactly why my deduction was being limited. TurboTax was just giving me a final number with no explanation.

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Thanks for the suggestion. I'll try H&R Block and see if it handles my situation better. Did you need to re-enter everything or were you able to import your data from TurboTax?

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Amara Okafor

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I had the exact same problem with my S-corp QBI deduction last month! The issue turned out to be that my software wasn't properly handling the interaction between the SSTB phase-out and the taxable income limitation. Here's what I learned after digging deep into this: With $192k in business income, you're likely above the SSTB phase-out threshold ($196,950 for single filers). If your consulting business qualifies as an SSTB (which it probably does), the software should be phasing out your QBI deduction as your income approaches that threshold. The "incomplete calculation" you're seeing might actually be the software correctly applying a phase-out but not showing you the math. Try looking for a detailed Form 8995-A in your forms list instead of the simple 8995 - that's the form used when you're above the income thresholds or have SSTB income. Also, double-check that you've entered a reasonable salary for yourself as an S-corp owner. The IRS expects S-corp owners to pay themselves W-2 wages, and the QBI calculation depends on having actual W-2 wages reported, not just distributions.

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Anna Stewart

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This is really helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation and think I might be in the SSTB phase-out range too. Quick question - when you say "reasonable salary," is there a specific percentage or amount the IRS expects for S-corp owners? I've been taking mostly distributions because the payroll taxes are so much lower, but now I'm worried this might be hurting my QBI deduction calculation. Also, did switching to Form 8995-A end up giving you a better or worse deduction compared to what the software was originally calculating?

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Sean Doyle

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@c9b46ddd6b4b This is exactly the guidance I needed! I just checked and you're right - my software generated Form 8995-A instead of the simple 8995, but it wasn't showing me the detailed calculations clearly. I'm definitely in SSTB territory with my consulting business, and my income is right at that phase-out threshold. The "incomplete" calculation I was seeing was actually the software applying the phase-out correctly but not explaining it well. Quick follow-up question - you mentioned the reasonable salary requirement. I've been taking only distributions this year to avoid payroll taxes, but now I'm realizing this might be creating problems beyond just the QBI calculation. What's considered "reasonable" for a consulting business? Should I be looking at comparable salaries in my industry, or is there a simpler rule of thumb the IRS uses?

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