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Liam McGuire

QBID - Schedule K1, 199A help for my small business tax filing

I'm running a small manufacturing business with 8 employees and I'm trying to figure out this whole Qualified Business Income Deduction thing. Using FreeTaxUSA for my 2024 taxes, and I'm confused about Box 20 on my Schedule K1 form which has a code Z with some 199A information. The partnership I'm part of distributed about $87,500 in qualified business income to me last year, but when I entered the K1 information into FreeTaxUSA, the software seems to be calculating a lower QBID amount than I expected. The instructions mention something about thresholds and limitations, but honestly it's like reading a foreign language. Does anyone know how the 199A deduction is supposed to work with partnership income? My total income for 2024 was around $245,000 (including the partnership distribution). I'm wondering if I'm hitting some kind of income limit or if I'm just entering something wrong in the software. The difference is significant - like $15,000 in potential tax savings! Any help from someone who understands Schedule K1 and the QBID would be greatly appreciated. This is only my second year having partnership income alongside my regular business.

Amara Eze

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The Qualified Business Income Deduction (Section 199A/QBID) gets complicated with partnerships and K-1s, but I can help explain what's likely happening in your situation. With your total income at $245,000, you're likely running into the phase-out threshold for the QBID. For 2024, the deduction begins to phase out at $191,950 for single filers and $383,900 for married filing jointly. Since you're above the single threshold but potentially below the married threshold (depending on your filing status), the calculation gets more complex. When your income exceeds the threshold, the QBID becomes limited by either: 50% of W-2 wages paid by the business, or 25% of W-2 wages plus 2.5% of the unadjusted basis of qualified property. The partnership should report these figures in Box 20 with code Z on your K-1. FreeTaxUSA is likely applying these limitations automatically based on your income level, which is why you're seeing a lower deduction than expected.

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Liam McGuire

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Thanks for explaining this! I am married filing jointly, so we're under that $383,900 threshold. Does that mean I should still get the full 20% deduction? The partnership did pay significant W-2 wages (over $300k total), so I don't think that should be limiting things either. Is there something specific I should look for in the software to make sure it's calculating correctly? Is FreeTaxUSA known for handling this correctly?

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Amara Eze

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If you're married filing jointly and under the $383,900 threshold, you should generally qualify for the full 20% deduction without the wage limitations kicking in. That's definitely different from what you described. The most common issue might be that you're overlooking other aspects of your tax situation that could affect the calculation. FreeTaxUSA generally handles these calculations correctly, but you should verify that all the K-1 information is entered properly, especially in Box 20. Check if there are any other factors reducing your QBI like capital gains, qualified dividends, or taxable interest which aren't eligible for the QBID.

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I've been through this exact nightmare with QBID calculations last year. After trying multiple software options, I found that https://taxr.ai was the only thing that really helped me understand what was happening with my Schedule K1 and 199A deductions. I uploaded my K1 and previous year's return, and their AI explained exactly why my deduction was being reduced - turned out I had some specified service trade or business income mixed in that was being partially disallowed. The software I was using didn't make this clear at all, but taxr.ai broke it down and showed me exactly which part of Section 199A was affecting my calculation. Their document analysis actually pointed out a mistake in how my partnership had coded some of the income in Box 20, which I was able to get corrected. Saved me about $9,000 in taxes!

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NeonNomad

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That sounds pretty helpful. Does it actually work with K1 forms? I've tried other tools that claim to handle complex tax documents but they usually fail with partnerships and S-corps. Did you have to explain anything to the AI or did it just figure everything out from the document?

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I'm a bit skeptical about using AI for something as precise as tax calculations. How do you know it gave you the correct interpretation? Did you verify with an actual CPA? The IRS isn't going to accept "but the AI told me" as an excuse if you get audited.

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Yes, it handled the K1 form perfectly. It recognized all the codes and boxes automatically, no explanation needed. It specifically has features for Schedule K1 analysis and 199A calculations. You just upload the document and it identifies all the relevant information. The AI doesn't replace the calculations that your tax software does - it just helps you understand what's happening and why. I did verify the findings with my accountant, and he confirmed everything was correct. The AI actually spotted something he had missed about how the QBID was being applied to my specific situation. It's more about translating the tax jargon into plain language so you can make informed decisions.

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NeonNomad

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I just tried taxr.ai with my partnership K1 and the 199A deduction issue! Honestly blown away by how helpful it was. My situation was similar but with S-Corp distributions and the 199A calculation was confusing me. The AI analyzed my K1 and explained that my deduction was being limited because of how my business was classified. Turns out my accountant had categorized part of my business as a Specified Service Trade or Business (SSTB) which has stricter QBID limitations. The tool showed exactly how the phase-out was being calculated and what numbers were causing the limitation. The best part was that it recommended shifting more of my income to non-SSTB activities which are eligible for the full deduction. Made the adjustment and recalculated - now getting almost $7,500 more in QBID! Would never have figured this out on my own or with just the tax software.

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Dmitry Volkov

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Dmitry Volkov

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I've got to eat my words about Claimyr. After posting that skeptical comment, I decided to try it because I was desperate to resolve a similar QBID issue with my K-1. Shockingly, it actually worked exactly as advertised. I got connected to an IRS representative in about 25 minutes (after previously trying for DAYS on my own). The agent was super helpful and explained that my partnership had incorrectly coded some of my income in Box 20 of my K-1, which was causing the QBID calculation to be wrong. The agent walked me through exactly what to look for on the K-1 and helped me understand which parts of the 199A calculation applied to my situation. I was able to go back to my tax software with this information and fix the issue. Ended up getting an additional $12,300 in qualified business income deductions! Sometimes you have to admit when you're wrong, and I was definitely wrong about this service.

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Ava Thompson

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Just want to add something important about QBID calculations that nobody mentioned. Make sure you're accounting for the "taxable income limitation" too. Your QBID can't exceed 20% of your taxable income AFTER subtracting net capital gains. So if a big chunk of your income is from capital gains, that could be why you're seeing a lower QBID number than expected. I made this mistake last year and couldn't figure out why my deduction was smaller than the 20% of QBI I was calculating manually. Also, if your K1 Box 20 has code Z with multiple amounts listed, make sure you're entering ALL of them into FreeTaxUSA. The software needs each component to calculate correctly.

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Liam McGuire

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That's a great point that I hadn't considered. We did have some capital gains last year from selling some stocks (about $35,000). Would that really affect the QBID calculation that much? I didn't realize capital gains would impact this.

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Ava Thompson

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Yes, capital gains definitely impact the calculation! The 199A deduction is limited to 20% of your taxable income MINUS net capital gains. So in your case, if you had $35,000 in capital gains, your effective taxable income for QBID purposes would be reduced by that amount. For example, if your taxable income was $200,000 including $35,000 capital gains, your QBID would be limited to 20% of $165,000 ($200,000 - $35,000), which is $33,000. Even if your QBI was higher, you couldn't take more than that $33,000 as your QBID. This is a commonly overlooked limitation that can significantly reduce the expected deduction.

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CyberSiren

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Has anyone else noticed that FreeTaxUSA sometimes struggles with complex K1 entries? I had a similar issue with the 199A deduction last year but found a workaround. Try downloading and installing the free IRS QBID worksheet (just google "IRS Section 199A worksheet") and calculate it manually first. Then you can see exactly where the software might be making different assumptions. For me, the issue was that FreeTaxUSA was applying an aggregation method for multiple businesses that wasn't appropriate for my situation. I ended up switching to TaxSlayer which handled it better for my specific case.

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TurboTax handles QBID calculations much better than FreeTaxUSA in my experience, especially with multiple K1s. It costs more but worth it for complex situations with partnerships and S-corps.

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