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Connor Murphy

What is the correct approach for QBI deduction on publicly traded partnerships (PTP) using form 8995?

I'm struggling to understand how to properly handle my qualified business income deduction for a publicly traded partnership (PTP) on form 8995. This is my first year owning shares in a PTP and I'm trying to figure out the correct approach for the simplified calculation on Form 8995. The K-1 I received shows qualified business income, but I'm confused about how this flows through to the Form 8995. Do I just put the QBI amount directly on line 1 of Form 8995? Or do PTPs have special handling? I've looked at the instructions but still feel like I'm missing something. For context, I have about $14,500 in qualified business income from the PTP according to my Schedule K-1. My total income is around $92,000 for the year, so I think I qualify for the simplified calculation. I just want to make sure I'm doing this correctly and maximizing the deduction I'm entitled to. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!

Yara Haddad

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The good news is that PTPs with QBI are generally eligible for the QBI deduction, but there are some specific rules to follow. For Form 8995 (the simplified version), you'll actually report your PTP income separately from other QBI sources. Look at Part II of Form 8995 - there's a specific section for qualified PTP income. You'll enter your PTP's qualified business income amount from your K-1 in this section, not on line 1 of Part I. Line 1 is for non-PTP qualified business income. Since your total taxable income is under $170,050 (for single filers) or $340,100 (for joint filers) in 2025, you're right that you qualify for the simplified calculation. With $14,500 in QBI from the PTP, you should be eligible for a deduction of about $2,900 (20% of your QBI), but remember this gets limited if your taxable income minus net capital gains is lower than your total QBI.

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Thanks for the clarification. But wait, I thought PTPs were considered "specified service trades or businesses" (SSTBs) which have additional limitations? Or does that only apply if your income is above those thresholds you mentioned? I've been reading conflicting information online.

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Yara Haddad

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Whether a PTP is considered an SSTB depends on the underlying business activities of the partnership. Not all PTPs are SSTBs - many PTPs are in industries like energy, real estate, and natural resources that typically aren't SSTBs. You're right that SSTB limitations exist, but they only start to apply when your taxable income exceeds the thresholds I mentioned ($170,050 single/$340,100 joint for 2025). Since your income is around $92,000, even if your PTP happened to be an SSTB, you wouldn't face those limitations.

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Paolo Conti

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Amina Sow

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Does it work with other K-1 forms too? I have a regular partnership (not publicly traded) and an S-corp, and dealing with the QBI calculations across multiple businesses is driving me crazy.

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GalaxyGazer

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Sounds interesting but does it actually check if the PTP is an SSTB or not? That's the part that confuses me the most - figuring out if my specific PTP counts as a "specified service" business.

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Paolo Conti

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Yes, it absolutely works with all types of K-1 forms (1065, 1120S, etc.). It's especially helpful when you have multiple business interests since it aggregates your QBI across different sources and applies the right limitations based on your total income. Saved me hours of spreadsheet work. For your question about SSTBs, it actually does help with that too. The tool analyzes the business code and activity description from your K-1 and gives you a determination about whether it's likely an SSTB. It flags if you need to look closer at any specific partnership because it might be in a specified service field like health, law, consulting, etc.

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GalaxyGazer

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I wanted to follow up about my experience with taxr.ai for my PTP situation. I decided to try it after posting here, and it was honestly eye-opening. It confirmed my PTP isn't an SSTB (it's in energy infrastructure) and showed me exactly how to handle it on Form 8995. What surprised me most was discovering I had some QBI that I was missing from another investment. The tool found that a different partnership interest I have also generated QBI that should be reported in Part I (not Part II with the PTP income). Without this I would have left money on the table! It clearly separated my regular QBI from the PTP portion and walked me through the correct way to complete each section of Form 8995. Totally worth checking out if you've got PTPs or multiple business interests.

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Oliver Wagner

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If you're still having trouble understanding your PTP's K-1 and QBI deduction, you might want to call the IRS directly for guidance. I know getting through to an actual human at the IRS is nearly impossible these days - I spent 3+ hours on hold last month trying to ask about my own QBI questions. I finally discovered this service https://claimyr.com that got me through to an IRS agent in about 15 minutes instead of waiting for hours. They basically hold your place in line and call you when an agent is available. They have a demo video here if you're curious how it works: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c For complex tax questions like PTP treatment on Form 8995, sometimes you just need to speak with an actual IRS representative who can look at your specific situation. Especially if you're unsure about the SSTB classification of your particular PTP.

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How does that even work? The IRS phone system is a nightmare with all those menu options. Does this actually get you to a real person or just navigate the menu for you? Seems too good to be true.

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Yeah right... I'd bet money this is just another service that charges you and then puts you on the same hold time. The IRS is understaffed by like 50,000 people. No way anyone's getting through faster than normal.

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Oliver Wagner

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I need to eat my words. After dismissing the Claimyr thing as BS, I actually tried it this morning because I was desperate to talk to someone about my PTP situation. I had already spent 2.5 hours on hold yesterday and given up. Today I used the service and got a call back with an actual IRS tax specialist on the line within 27 minutes. The agent walked me through exactly how to handle my PTP income on Form 8995, confirmed that I needed to put it in Part II separate from my other business income, and clarified the SSTB question for my specific partnership. I'm genuinely shocked this worked. For anyone struggling with complicated PTP and QBI questions, being able to talk directly to an IRS specialist made all the difference. They even emailed me some reference materials after our call.

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Emma Thompson

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Don't forget that if your PTP generated a net loss, you can't use that loss to offset QBI from other sources in the current year. PTP losses have to be carried forward and can only offset PTP income in future years. This is different from how non-PTP QBI works. That's why PTPs are handled in a separate section of Form 8995. The IRS basically wants you to keep PTP income/losses in their own bucket for QBI purposes.

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Malik Davis

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Is that still true if I sold all my shares in the PTP last year? I had a small loss from a PTP but sold everything. Can I still use that loss somewhere else or is it just lost forever?

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Emma Thompson

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If you fully disposed of your interest in the PTP, then the loss becomes deductible in the year of final disposition. Look at the Form 8995 instructions - there's a section about "Previously Disallowed Losses or Deductions" that explains this. So you should be able to include the previously disallowed loss as a negative QBI amount in Part II of Form 8995 in the year you completely liquidated your PTP interest. It's not lost forever, but you can only take it when you fully exit the investment.

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Another thing to consider is state taxes. Some states don't conform to the federal QBI deduction at all. I live in California and they don't allow the QBI deduction on the state return, so I end up paying more state tax than I initially expected from my PTP investment. Make sure you understand how your state handles QBI from PTPs before you make investment decisions based on the tax benefits.

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StarStrider

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This is so important and often overlooked. Oregon doesn't allow it either. I got a nasty surprise when my federal taxable income was way lower than my state taxable income because of this. Check your state's department of revenue website to see if they conform to this federal deduction.

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Javier Cruz

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This is a really comprehensive discussion! I just wanted to add one more point that might be helpful for anyone dealing with PTPs and QBI. Make sure to check if your PTP issued any amended K-1s throughout the year. PTPs are notorious for issuing corrected K-1s sometimes months after the original, and this can significantly impact your QBI calculation. I learned this the hard way when I filed early one year only to receive an amended K-1 in March that changed my QBI amount by over $3,000. Also, if you have multiple PTPs, remember that you aggregate all PTP income/losses together in Part II of Form 8995 - you don't list each PTP separately. The form instructions make this clear but it's easy to miss if you're rushing through it. For Connor's original question about the $14,500 QBI - that sounds like a solid amount that should give you a nice deduction. Just double-check that the K-1 specifically identifies it as "qualified business income" and not just ordinary income, since PTPs can generate both types.

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Great point about the amended K-1s! I'm new to PTP investing and didn't realize this was such a common issue. How do you typically handle this timing-wise? Do you wait until a certain date before filing, or do you file and then amend if needed? I'm worried about filing early and then having to deal with amendments later, but I also don't want to delay my refund unnecessarily. Also, when you mention checking that it's specifically "qualified business income" vs ordinary income on the K-1 - where exactly should I be looking for this distinction? My K-1 has a lot of different line items and I want to make sure I'm not missing anything or double-counting income.

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