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This is exactly the kind of question I wish I had asked when I first started working! You're absolutely on the right track thinking about maximizing both accounts. Just to reinforce what others have said - yes, you can definitely contribute the full $23k to your 401k AND $7k to your Roth IRA in the same year. At your $85k salary, you're well below the Roth IRA income limits, so no worries there. One thing I'd suggest is running the numbers on how much this will actually impact your take-home pay. Contributing $30k total annually means about $2,500 per month, which might be aggressive depending on your other expenses and financial goals. You might want to start with getting the full employer match on your 401k, then gradually increase both contributions as you get comfortable with the cash flow impact. Also, don't forget about emergency savings! While maximizing retirement contributions is awesome, make sure you have at least 3-6 months of expenses saved up first. You don't want to be in a position where you have to withdraw from retirement accounts early because of an unexpected expense. Great job thinking about this stuff early - your future self will definitely thank you!
This is such great advice about pacing yourself! I'm just getting started with all this retirement planning stuff and it's easy to get overwhelmed trying to max everything out immediately. The point about emergency savings is really important too - I've been so focused on retirement accounts that I hadn't really thought about making sure I have enough liquid savings first. Do you think it's better to build up the full emergency fund before starting retirement contributions, or is it okay to do both simultaneously? Like maybe contribute enough to get the employer match while building emergency savings, then ramp up retirement contributions once the emergency fund is solid? Also, when you mention running the numbers on take-home pay impact - any suggestions for tools or calculators that help figure out how much the 401k contributions will reduce your taxable income? I want to make sure I understand the tax implications before I commit to specific contribution amounts.
Hey Luca! Congrats on starting to think seriously about retirement savings - you're definitely asking the right questions! Everyone here has given you solid advice, and yes, you can absolutely max out both accounts in the same year. The $23k 401k limit and $7k Roth IRA limit are completely separate. At $85k income, you're well within all the eligibility requirements. I'd echo what others have said about prioritizing the employer match first - that's literally free money you don't want to miss out on. Beyond that, here's my take on the strategy: 1. Contribute enough to get full employer match (sounds like 6% based on your comment) 2. Build a solid emergency fund if you don't have one yet (3-6 months expenses) 3. Max the Roth IRA ($7k) - better investment options and flexibility 4. Go back and max the 401k if you can afford it The key is finding a sustainable contribution level that doesn't stress your monthly budget. You can always increase contributions over time as your income grows or expenses decrease. Better to start with a reasonable amount you can stick with than to max everything out for a few months and then have to scale back. One practical tip: most payroll systems let you set 401k contributions as a percentage, so you might want to calculate what percentage of your gross pay gets you to your target annual contribution amount. Makes it easier to set and forget! You're starting young which is the biggest advantage you have. Even if you can't max both accounts immediately, consistent contributions over time will compound into serious wealth. Keep asking good questions like this!
Do you know the total amount of gifts your aunt gave throughout her lifetime? The lifetime exemption is pretty high (over $12 million), but if she was very wealthy and had already used up a lot of her exemption, it could affect the tax situation for her estate.
I really don't know how much she gave in her lifetime. She wasn't super wealthy or anything - she was a retired school teacher, but she was really good with saving and investing. This gift to me was about $22,000, which I know is over the annual limit. I don't think she made many other large gifts that I know of, but I'm not 100% sure.
Since you mentioned your aunt was a retired teacher who was good with saving and investing, it's very unlikely she exceeded the lifetime gift and estate tax exemption. Even if she made occasional large gifts over the years, the current exemption is $13.61 million per person for 2024 (and will be even higher for 2025), so most people never come close to owing actual gift tax. As the executor, you'll want to look through her financial records to see if she ever filed Form 709 in previous years - that would tell you if she made other large gifts that used up part of her exemption. But honestly, with a $22,000 gift being notable enough for you to worry about, it sounds like she probably stayed well within the exemption limits. The main thing is just making sure you file that Form 709 for the year she made the gift to you, even if no tax is actually owed. It's more about proper documentation than owing money to the IRS.
This is really helpful context! I was worried about the tax implications but it sounds like for someone with her background, we're probably nowhere near those exemption limits. I'll definitely look through her papers to see if she filed any Form 709s before - that's a great suggestion I hadn't thought of. Quick question though - when I file the Form 709 for her, do I need to estimate what her total lifetime gifts were, or can I just report the gift she made to me and note that I don't have complete records of other potential gifts? I'm trying to be thorough but also don't want to make things more complicated than they need to be.
Quick tip from someone who got audited: the IRS specifically flagged my high meal expenses compared to my business revenue. Now I follow the 5 W's rule - document Who, What, Where, When, and Why on every receipt. I snap a pic with my phone and use the notes feature to add this info right away.
What app do you use for tracking this stuff? Been using just the regular notes app but wondering if there's something better.
I've been dealing with this exact same confusion as a freelance graphic designer! One thing that really helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet template for meal tracking. I include columns for date, amount, location, who I was with, business purpose, and a photo of the receipt. My accountant told me the biggest mistake people make is not being specific enough about the business purpose. Instead of writing "client meeting," I write "discussed Q1 marketing campaign with ABC Company - reviewed design concepts and timeline." The IRS wants to see that actual business was conducted, not just that you happened to eat with someone. Also learned the hard way that coffee meetings count too if you're discussing business! I was missing out on deducting all those Starbucks meetings with potential clients. Just make sure you're consistent with your documentation from day one.
This spreadsheet approach sounds really smart! I'm just starting out with my own small business and have been throwing receipts in a shoebox like an amateur. Do you have a template you'd be willing to share? Also, how do you handle situations where you're grabbing coffee with someone but the business discussion is pretty informal - like when you're just getting to know a potential client? I'm never sure if those count or if there has to be a specific project being discussed.
Hey there! I totally understand your frustration - I've been in a similar spot before with an amended return. Here are a few additional options you might not have considered: If you have a CPA or tax preparer, they should have your return info on file and can tell you the refund amount over the phone. Even if you did it yourself, some tax software companies have customer service that can help you access your account remotely. Also, try checking your credit monitoring apps (like Credit Karma, if you use one) - they sometimes show tax refund information in their financial summaries. One more thing that saved me once: if you have a spouse or family member who was listed on the return, they might be able to access the Where's My Refund tool using their information instead of yours. Since amended returns take so long anyway, you could also just wait until you're back home to check. I know the uncertainty is stressful, but 3 weeks into the process means you've got at least 13 more weeks of waiting regardless. Sometimes the peace of mind isn't worth the hassle of jumping through all these hoops! Hope one of these options works for you - amended returns are such a pain to track! š¤
This is such solid advice! I especially love the tip about checking with a spouse or family member - I never would have thought of that. Quick question though: when you mention credit monitoring apps showing tax refund info, do they actually display the expected refund amount, or just when it hits your account? I use Credit Karma but I've never noticed tax info there. Also, you're probably right about just waiting until I get home - I keep telling myself I need to know NOW but realistically it's going to be months before anything happens anyway. The amended return process is definitely designed to test your patience! š¤
I feel your frustration! I went through something similar last year when I was stuck overseas and needed to check my amended return status. Here's what ultimately worked for me: The IRS transcript method mentioned above is definitely your best bet, but if you can't get through their identity verification online, try calling the transcript request line at 1-800-908-9946. It's a different system than the main IRS line and sometimes has shorter wait times. Another option that saved me: if you bank with a major bank (Chase, Bank of America, etc.), their customer service can sometimes look up your previous year's IRS deposits, which gives you a ballpark estimate. I called my bank's 24-hour line and they were able to tell me my 2022 refund amount, which helped me guess within the right range. Also, don't overlook your state tax return if you filed one - sometimes the state portal will show your federal AGI or refund info, and their systems are usually more user-friendly than the IRS. Since you're only 3 weeks into the amended return process anyway, you've got plenty of time to figure this out. Amended returns are notorious for taking 16+ weeks, so even if you can't check the status right now, you're not missing out on getting your money any faster. The waiting game is just part of the amended return experience unfortunately! Good luck getting through all the bureaucratic maze! š¤
This is super helpful, especially the tip about the dedicated transcript line! I had no idea there was a separate number that might have shorter wait times. I'm definitely going to try that 1-800-908-9946 number first thing tomorrow. The bank lookup idea is brilliant too - I never would have thought to ask them about previous IRS deposits, but that makes total sense since they would have that transaction history. Thanks for sharing all these practical workarounds! It's reassuring to know I'm not the only one who's been stuck in this situation while traveling. The whole amended return process really does feel like it's designed to test your patience at every step! š
Fatima Al-Suwaidi
The $600 threshold is definitely the key here, and it sounds like you're on the right track with your understanding. Since you mentioned your uncle didn't have investments or rental properties, the main things to look out for would be interest earned on his bank accounts after his death, any final paychecks that came in after he passed, or dividends from any stocks he might have owned. One thing that catches a lot of people off guard is that even small amounts of interest can add up over time if the estate stays open for several months. If you're settling things quickly and the only income is minimal bank interest, you'll likely stay well under the $600 threshold. The EIN letter language is indeed standard - they send the same wording to everyone regardless of the actual filing requirements. It's meant to cover all situations, but the $600 gross income rule still applies to determine if you actually need to file Form 1041 for your specific situation.
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Angel Campbell
ā¢This is really helpful information! I'm new to handling estate matters and had no idea about the $600 threshold. The EIN letter definitely made it sound like filing was mandatory regardless of income. Quick question - if the estate account earns interest over several months while we're settling everything, is that calculated from the date of death or from when the EIN was issued? I want to make sure I'm tracking the right timeframe for any potential income. Also, would things like his final utility bill refunds or security deposits returned after his death count toward that $600 threshold? I'm trying to get a complete picture of what might qualify as "gross income" for the estate.
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Hunter Edmunds
ā¢Great questions! The $600 threshold is calculated from the date of death through the end of the tax year, not from when the EIN was issued. So if your uncle passed away in January, you'd track any estate income from January through December 31st of that year. Regarding utility refunds and security deposits - these generally wouldn't count as "gross income" for the estate because they're just returning money that was already your uncle's. Similar to tax refunds, these represent funds he was entitled to before his death, not new income generated after. The key distinction is whether the money represents new earnings (like interest, dividends, rental income) versus refunds/returns of existing assets. Interest earned on bank accounts definitely counts toward the threshold, but getting back a utility deposit or final bill credit typically doesn't. Keep good records of any interest earned on estate accounts - even small amounts like $10-20 per month can add up if the estate remains open for many months!
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Anastasia Romanov
I went through this exact same situation when my aunt passed away last year. The EIN letter really does make it sound mandatory, but you're absolutely correct about the $600 threshold still applying. In my case, the estate only generated about $85 in bank interest over the 8 months it took to settle everything, so no Form 1041 was needed. The key thing I learned is that "gross income" specifically refers to money the estate EARNED after death - not the value of assets that already existed. So in your uncle's case, his checking account balance, retirement funds, and truck value don't count toward the $600. Only new income like interest earned on those accounts after his passing would matter. If he didn't have investments generating dividends or rental properties, you'll probably stay well under the threshold. Keep track of any interest earned on the estate bank account though - that's usually the main source of income for simple estates like this. As long as it stays under $600 for the tax year, you can ignore that "must file" language in the EIN letter.
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Jade O'Malley
ā¢This is such valuable insight! I'm dealing with a similar situation for my grandfather's estate right now. The EIN letter had me convinced I'd need to file no matter what, but hearing about your experience with just $85 in interest is reassuring. One thing I'm curious about - did you have to keep detailed records of that bank interest throughout the process, or was it easy to calculate at the end? I'm trying to figure out the best way to track everything since his estate account has been earning small amounts of interest each month. Also, did you run into any issues with banks or other institutions accepting that you didn't need to file Form 1041? I'm worried someone might question why there's no filing when we have an EIN.
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