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Ethan Moore

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I went through this exact same situation two years ago and felt like I was going crazy! Here's what I learned that might help: If you're using the same tax software as last year, try logging into your account from last year's filing. Many people don't realize that tax software companies often store your previous year's filing information, including the Self-Select PIN, in your account profile. Look for sections like "My Account," "Tax History," or "Previous Returns." Also, check if you saved any screenshots or notes when you filed last year. I started taking a screenshot of my confirmation page after learning this lesson - it shows the PIN right there. If none of that works, definitely go with the prior year AGI method that others mentioned. It's actually more reliable than trying to remember a random 5-digit number you created a year ago! The IRS specifically allows this as an alternative verification method for exactly this reason. And here's a pro tip for next year: when you create your new Self-Select PIN, write it down in two places - one with your tax documents and one in a password manager or secure note on your phone. You'll thank yourself next April!

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Jason Brewer

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This is such solid advice! I'm definitely implementing the screenshot and password manager strategies for next year. I can't believe I never thought to check my actual account profile in the tax software - that seems so obvious now! One question about the AGI method - do you know if there are any situations where using the prior year AGI might not work? Like if you filed an amended return or had some kind of correction after your original filing? I'm just wondering if the IRS system would have the updated AGI or the original amount from when I first e-filed. Also, for anyone else reading this thread, I want to echo what others have said about not panicking. I was literally stress-sweating over this PIN issue, but there really are multiple ways to solve it. The tax software companies and the IRS have dealt with this exact problem millions of times - they've built in backup verification methods for a reason!

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Zoe Stavros

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This is such a comprehensive thread - love seeing everyone help each other out during tax season! I went through this same PIN nightmare three years ago and it taught me to be way more organized with my tax records. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that if you used a tax preparer last year (like H&R Block, Jackson Hewitt, etc.), they often keep copies of your e-file confirmation in their system. You can call them or visit the location where you filed, and they might be able to look up your Self-Select PIN from their records. Also, if you're really stuck and running up against the deadline, remember that you can file for an automatic 6-month extension using Form 4868. This gives you until October 15th to file your return (though you still need to pay any taxes owed by the original deadline). Sometimes taking the pressure off helps you think more clearly about where you might have saved that PIN information. The AGI verification method really is your best bet though - it's what I ended up using, and it worked perfectly. Just make sure you're using the exact dollar amount, including cents if applicable. The IRS system is very precise about matching that number.

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Caleb Bell

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with this exact issue right now and was starting to panic. The extension option is something I hadn't considered - that's really good to know as a backup plan. I'm curious about the tax preparer route you mentioned. Do places like H&R Block actually keep that detailed information in their system? I used a local CPA last year and I'm wondering if smaller tax prep offices would have the same kind of record-keeping system as the big chains. Also, when you say "exact dollar amount including cents" for the AGI method - my 2023 Form 1040 shows a whole dollar amount on line 11. Should I enter it as something like "$45,678" or "45678" or "$45,678.00"? I want to make sure I get the format exactly right since you mentioned the IRS system is so precise about matching. Thanks to everyone for all the detailed advice - this community is amazing during stressful tax season!

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Zara Rashid

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For TurboTax specifically, they'll ask if you have self-employment income. Say yes, and then you'll be guided to the "Business Income" section. Enter your Patreon/Buy Me A Coffee as a sole proprietorship business. You can use your own name as the business name if you don't have a formal business name.

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Luca Romano

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This is helpful but I'm still confused about what business category to choose in TurboTax. Would an artist on Patreon be "Arts & Entertainment" or something else?

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NeonNova

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For artists on Patreon, you'd typically choose "Arts & Entertainment" or more specifically "Independent Artists, Writers, and Performers" if that option is available. The exact category isn't super critical for tax purposes - what matters most is that you're reporting it as self-employment income. TurboTax will guide you through the business code selection, and you can always search for "artist" or "creative services" in their business code lookup tool. The key is being consistent year over year with whatever category you choose.

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One important thing to remember is keeping track of your expenses throughout the year, not just at tax time! I wish someone had told me this when I started my Patreon. Set up a simple spreadsheet or use an app to log art supplies, software subscriptions, equipment purchases, and even things like packaging for rewards you send to patrons. Also, don't forget about the home office deduction if you have a dedicated workspace for your art. Even if it's just a corner of a room that you use exclusively for creating content, you can potentially deduct a portion of your rent/mortgage, utilities, and other home expenses. TurboTax has a simplified method that lets you deduct $5 per square foot up to 300 square feet, which is much easier than calculating actual expenses. The key is being organized from day one rather than scrambling to reconstruct everything come tax season!

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Liam O'Connor

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This is such solid advice! I'm just starting out and already feeling overwhelmed by the idea of tracking everything. Do you have any recommendations for simple apps or tools that make expense tracking easier? I'm worried I'll forget to log things or lose receipts. Also, for the home office deduction - does it have to be a completely separate room, or can it really be just a dedicated corner like you mentioned?

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Zainab Ahmed

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The 846 code with a 2/10 date is definitely a good sign! That's your official refund issued date. Since you mentioned having to amend paperwork earlier, I totally understand the extra anxiety - I went through something similar last year when I had to correct my filing status. A few things that might help ease your mind: • The 846 code is one of the most reliable indicators in the whole process • Most banks process IRS direct deposits overnight, so you'll likely see it early morning on 2/10 • Since your transcript already updated for cycle 3, you're past the major processing hurdles • Amended returns can cause delays, but once you see that 846 code, those delays are behind you I'd recommend setting up account alerts with your bank so you get notified the moment it hits. The waiting game is brutal, but you're basically at the finish line now. Keep an eye on your transcript for any new codes, but honestly, once you have that 846 with a date, it's pretty much a done deal!

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The 846 code with 2/10 date is great news! That's your official refund issued date from the IRS. Since you filed on 1/31 and had to amend paperwork (which can definitely add stress), seeing that 846 code means you've cleared all the processing hurdles. Here's what to expect: • Your refund will be released by the IRS on 2/10 • Most banks process IRS deposits overnight, so you'll likely see it early morning on 2/10 • Some banks may hold it 1-2 business days, but many make IRS refunds available immediately • Keep checking your transcript until the money hits - just to be safe I totally get the anxiety after having to amend things! I went through something similar and was constantly second-guessing everything. But once you see that 846 code with a specific date, you're basically home free. The IRS is pretty reliable with those dates once they commit to them. Set up mobile alerts with your bank if you can - there's nothing like getting that notification that your refund has arrived! You're almost there!

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This is really helpful! I'm new to understanding all these transcript codes and was getting overwhelmed trying to figure out what everything means. The 846 code explanation makes so much sense now. I've been checking WMR obsessively but sounds like the transcript is more reliable. Quick question - if the 846 shows 2/10 but it's a weekend, would the deposit still happen or would it get pushed to the next business day?

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Liam Brown

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I just went through this exact process last month! I verified my identity through ID.me on January 28th and received my refund on February 18th - so exactly 21 days. Here's what helped me during the waiting period: 1. Set up your IRS online account to check transcripts - this gives you much more detailed info than WMR 2. Don't check WMR daily (easier said than done, I know!) - it rarely updates until the very end 3. Look for transcript codes 570/971 about a week after verification - this means they're processing it 4. Code 846 with a date means your refund is officially scheduled The hardest part is just the waiting and uncertainty. Since you verified last week, you're right on track for the typical 2-3 week timeframe. Try to resist the urge to constantly refresh WMR - I drove myself crazy doing that! Your refund is coming, it just takes time for their system to work through everything after verification.

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Amina Bah

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This is super helpful, thank you for the detailed timeline! I'm at day 8 since my ID.me verification and already checking WMR way too often. I really need to set up that IRS online account to check my transcript - seems like everyone who's been through this process recommends it. Quick question: when you got the 846 code, how many days before the actual deposit date did it show up on your transcript? Trying to manage my expectations for when I might actually see the money hit my account once I get that code.

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I went through identity verification through ID.me about 6 months ago, and it took exactly 19 days to get my refund. Here's what I learned from the experience: The key is understanding that identity verification is just one checkpoint - your return still goes through all the normal processing steps afterward. After verification, expect to see codes 570 and 971 on your transcript within about a week (these are normal and not a cause for concern). A few things that helped me stay sane during the wait: - Check your transcript weekly, not daily - WMR rarely updates until the very end, so don't rely on it - If you claimed EITC or additional child tax credit, add extra time due to PATH Act requirements - The 846 code on your transcript with a date is your golden ticket - that's when you know your refund is officially scheduled Since you just verified last week, you're still very early in the process. Most people I know who verified this tax season have gotten their refunds between 14-28 days. Try to be patient - I know it's tough when you're waiting for money you're owed, but the system does work, it just takes time after verification.

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Summer Green

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As someone who just went through this exact same struggle last month, I completely understand your frustration! I spent way too much time searching for a form that doesn't exist as a standalone document. Just to echo what others have said - you'll need to create your own "Statement A-QBI" following the requirements outlined in the Form 8995 or 8995-A instructions. I ended up making a simple table in a Word document with columns for business name, EIN, QBI amount, W-2 wages, and qualified property basis for each of my pass-through entities. One thing that really helped me was looking at the specific line-by-line instructions for Form 8995-A (even if you end up using 8995) because it breaks down exactly what information the IRS expects to see in your supporting statement. The key is being thorough and clearly organized so everything is easy to follow if they ever review your return. Good luck with your manual filing - it's definitely doable once you understand what you're actually looking for!

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Nora Brooks

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Thank you so much for the clear explanation, Summer! This is exactly what I needed to hear. I've been pulling my hair out trying to find this "form" on the IRS website for days. It's honestly a bit frustrating that they reference Statement A-QBI in the instructions without making it clear that it's something taxpayers need to create themselves. Your suggestion about looking at the Form 8995-A instructions even if using 8995 is really smart - I hadn't thought of that approach. I'm definitely going to create a Word table similar to what you described. It sounds like the key is just being organized and including all the required elements clearly. I really appreciate everyone in this community taking the time to share their experiences. As a newcomer here, it's reassuring to know there are people willing to help others navigate these confusing tax situations!

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I completely understand the confusion - I went through this exact same frustration when I first encountered QBI requirements for my small business. The terminology is really misleading since "Statement A-QBI" sounds like it should be an official form with a number. What helped me was realizing that the IRS basically wants you to create a supporting schedule that breaks down your QBI information clearly. I use a simple format with my name and SSN at the top, then "Statement A-QBI - Qualified Business Income Supporting Statement" as the title, followed by a table showing each business. For anyone still working on this, don't overthink the format - as long as you include all the required information (business name, EIN, your ownership percentage, QBI amount, W-2 wages, and qualified property basis) in a clear, organized way, you'll be fine. The IRS cares more about having complete information than fancy formatting. Also, make sure to keep copies of all your source documents that support the numbers on your statement. If you ever get questioned, you'll want to be able to show where each figure came from. Good luck with your filing!

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This is such helpful advice, especially about keeping source documents! As someone new to dealing with QBI, I hadn't really thought about the audit trail aspect. Your point about the IRS caring more about complete information than fancy formatting is reassuring - I was getting caught up in trying to make it look "official" when really it just needs to be clear and accurate. I'm curious though - when you mention including ownership percentage, is that necessary even for single-member LLCs where I own 100%? And do you happen to know if there are any specific requirements for how to handle multiple rental properties that qualify for QBI? I have three different rental properties and I'm not sure if I should list them as separate lines or if there's a way to group them together. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really helpful to hear from someone who's been through this process before!

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