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Hi all. Re: TurboTax refund advance. I'm trying to understand how they recoup the $ when returns come in. If state refund arrives first, do they automatically take the advance amt from that? Or do they ONLY take it from fed refund regardless of which arrives first? TIA for clarifying. Need to plan finances accurately as I'm managing budget for elderly parent + myself.
I'm using TurboTax again this year (5th time using it even though I keep telling myself I won't). They advertised their FREE edition that supposedly includes both state and federal filing. So I spent almost an hour punching in all my info and clicking through screen after screen only to get hit with this message: "To accurately complete your taxes, you need to upgrade to TurboTax Deluxe" When I clicked "Why do I need to upgrade?" it told me: "You have Schedule 3, Nonrefundable Credits, and that's just one of the reasons the IRS requires you to file Form 1040. TurboTax Free Edition does not cover this situation" What the heck is Schedule 3 Nonrefundable Credits?? I knew they were going to find some way to make me pay after I'd already invested all that time. What did I even enter that triggered this stupid paywall? Is TurboTax just a complete scam at this point? Has anyone else run into this and found a way around it?
This happens every year with TurboTax. I made the switch to Cash App Taxes (formerly Credit Karma Tax) and it's completely free for federal AND state, including most common forms like Schedule 3.
This is such a classic TurboTax move - they lure you in with "free" filing then hit you with upgrade requirements after you've already spent time entering everything. Schedule 3 covers nonrefundable credits like the Child Tax Credit, Education Credits, and Retirement Savings Contributions Credit (Saver's Credit). If you contributed to an IRA or 401k and qualify for the Saver's Credit based on your income level, that would definitely trigger Schedule 3. The frustrating part is that this is a completely standard form that should be included in any legitimate "free" tax software. I'd recommend trying the actual IRS Free File program instead of these commercial "free" versions. The income limits are pretty generous and they include way more forms without trying to upsell you. You can find the real IRS Free File partners on the IRS website - just avoid going through the tax companies' own websites since they'll try to steer you to their paid versions.
Has anyone used one of the paid tax preparation services this tax season? I've always done my own taxes using the free version of TurboTax, but this year my situation is more complicated. Got married, bought a house, and started some freelance work on the side. I'm worried about missing deductions or messing something up that could cost me money or worse, trigger an audit. I'm looking at TurboTax Deluxe ($89), H&R Block Premium ($75), and TaxAct Premier ($65). Are they worth the extra money compared to the free versions? Do they actually help you find more deductions? And has anyone used their "audit protection" features - do they actually help if you get audited? Sorry for all the questions, just trying to figure out what's worth paying for and what's just marketing hype. Thanks!
Has anyone used the tax pro review add-on that most of these services offer? It's like an extra $100 but they supposedly have a pro review your return before filing. Wondering if it's just a money grab or actually worth it.
I'm in a very similar situation - got married last year, bought our first home, and started some side consulting work. I ended up going with TurboTax Deluxe and it was definitely worth the upgrade from the free version. The biggest help was with the home-related deductions. The software walked me through mortgage interest, property taxes, and even helped me figure out if I qualified for any first-time homebuyer credits I had missed. For the freelance income, it guided me through Schedule C and helped identify business expenses I hadn't thought of - like the percentage of my home internet bill I could deduct for my home office. One tip: if you do go with a paid version, buy it directly from the company's website rather than through third-party retailers. I've heard of people getting older versions or having issues with activation when buying from places like Costco or Amazon. The audit protection features are mostly peace of mind - they'll represent you if you get audited, but honestly, if you're using the software correctly and keeping good records, your audit risk is pretty low anyway. I skipped that add-on and put the extra money toward a small emergency fund for next year's quarterly tax payments instead.
Has anyone with NetSpend who had a direct deposit date of 3/17 actually seen their money hit their account yet? Seems like every year they claim 'same-day' deposits, but do they really deliver? And why does it seem like traditional banks sometimes get the funds earlier? Just wondering if I'm the only one refreshing my app every 10 minutes...
I think it might be helpful to share that my NetSpend deposit just hit about 20 minutes ago! My transcript showed 3/17 as the deposit date, and it came through around 2:15pm EST today. Last year it was almost exactly the same timing. Maybe check your accounts again soon?
Just checked my NetSpend app after seeing Mikayla's update and mine hit too! Got my deposit at 2:47pm EST today (3/17). For anyone still waiting, it looks like NetSpend is releasing them in batches throughout the afternoon. I've noticed they usually do deposits in waves - early morning (12am-6am) for some people, then afternoon batches like this one. Don't panic if you haven't seen yours yet - there might be another wave later today or early tomorrow morning. The important thing is that your transcript shows the 3/17 date, which means the IRS has already sent the payment to NetSpend.
Hey everyone, My husband and I are filing our taxes jointly for the first time (got married in August 2022) and I'm really confused about what I'm seeing in TurboTax. We both had our W-4 withholding set to Single with 0 allowances from January through August, and only changed them to Married Filing Jointly in September. Currently showing we owe $158 in federal taxes and I'm totally puzzled why. I thought we were having MORE taxes taken out during those 8 months when we were listed as "Single," so I was expecting at least a small refund. Our combined income is around $135k and we're taking the standard deduction. Can anyone explain in simple terms why we would owe anything? I'm especially confused about WHY we're owing when our withholding status and exemptions were set to Single and 0 for most of the year. Isn't Single withholding supposed to take out more than necessary?
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet - check if your employers correctly calculated your withholding after you changed your W-4s in September. I had a similar issue and discovered my payroll department kept withholding at the Single rate even though I submitted the updated form. Also, did either of you have any additional income besides your regular jobs? Even small amounts of extra income with no withholding (like interest, dividends, side gigs) can throw off your withholding calculations.
Oh that's a good point! I'm going to check our last few pay stubs from 2022 to see if the withholding actually changed after we submitted the new W-4s. And yes, I did have about $3,000 in freelance income that didn't have any withholding. I completely forgot about that! That might explain part of why we're owing.
That $3,000 in freelance income is definitely contributing to why you owe! When you have self-employment income without withholding, you not only owe regular income tax on it but also self-employment tax (about 15.3% for Social Security and Medicare). So on that $3,000, you're looking at roughly: - Income tax: ~$660 (assuming 22% marginal rate) - Self-employment tax: ~$424 (after the deduction for employer portion) That's over $1,000 right there, which explains most of your tax bill. For 2023, you'll want to either make quarterly estimated payments on any freelance income or increase your withholding from your regular jobs to cover it. The IRS generally wants you to pay as you earn, not all at once in April. You can use Form 1040-ES to calculate quarterly payments, or just have extra withheld from your W-4 jobs by adding a specific dollar amount on line 4c of your W-4s.
Zara Khan
Let me walk you through how the TurboTax Refund Advance typically works: 1. When you apply for the advance, you're actually getting a loan from a partner bank 2. During tax filing, TurboTax creates a temporary bank account (sometimes called a SBTPG account) 3. Your federal refund is directed to this temporary account first 4. The bank deducts the advance amount plus any applicable fees 5. The remaining balance is forwarded to your personal bank account 6. Your state refund is typically sent directly to your personal account This structure is why they generally only take repayment from the federal refund. The state refund usually bypasses their temporary account system entirely.
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MoonlightSonata
Wow, I never realized they created a whole temporary bank account for this process! That makes so much sense now. Last year I was confused why my federal refund seemed to take an extra step before reaching me compared to my state refund. This explains the exact mechanism.
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Mateo Gonzalez
Is this temporary account creation reported to ChexSystems or similar banking verification systems? I'm wondering if getting multiple refund advances over different tax years could potentially affect one's banking history or ability to open new accounts?
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Ryan Young
Great question about budgeting with elderly parents in mind - I'm in a similar situation. From what I've experienced and researched, TurboTax Refund Advance is almost always recovered from your federal refund only, not state. The key reason is that when you accept the advance, you're essentially authorizing TurboTax's banking partner to intercept your federal refund through the IRS e-file system. State refunds are processed by individual state tax agencies and typically go directly to your bank account without passing through TurboTax's collection system. However, I'd strongly recommend calling TurboTax directly to confirm this for your specific situation, especially since you're managing finances for two people. You want to be 100% certain about the timing so you can plan appropriately. Also, make sure you understand what happens if your federal refund is less than expected due to any IRS adjustments - you'd still owe the advance amount.
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