Schedule K-1 Form 1065 Help: Why is my refund drastically changing in TurboTax?
Looking for some guidance here, I think I might be doing something wrong with my K-1 entry in TurboTax and it's driving me crazy! Let me try to explain my situation. Before adding my Schedule K-1 Form 1065, my federal refund was showing as $5,390. The business is an LLC with a 50/50 partnership split between me and my business partner. When I entered the K-1 information, TurboTax says I owe $2,285 in tax on the K-1, and I'm getting a QBI deduction of $2,915. But here's what's confusing me - my federal refund dropped from $5,390 all the way down to $492. The ordinary business income and self-employment income value on the K-1 is $15,873. Gross income is $30,237. I don't understand why the whole refund is getting demolished here. As soon as I entered Box 1 from the K-1 ($15,873), my refund immediately dropped from $5,390 to $1,825 (a drop of $3,565). Then I had to enter Box 14a (self-employment income, also $15,873), and it dropped AGAIN by another $2,018. TurboTax is telling me I only owe $2,285 in tax on the K-1, but the math doesn't seem to add up. Is the software glitching out or am I completely missing something? Sorry for the confused rambling. Just really frustrated and wondering if anyone else has run into this. Happy to provide more details if needed.
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Ella rollingthunder87
What you're seeing is actually normal and not a glitch in TurboTax. When you enter a Schedule K-1 Form 1065, there are multiple tax impacts happening at once. The first drop you saw after entering Box 1 ($15,873) is because that's additional income you earned through the partnership, so it's adding to your taxable income and naturally reducing your refund. Think of this like adding W-2 income - more income means more tax. The second drop after entering Box 14a (the self-employment income) is because you now owe self-employment tax on that income. Self-employment tax is roughly 15.3% (12.4% for Social Security and 2.9% for Medicare) - this is separate from your regular income tax. When you're self-employed, you're paying both the employer and employee portions of these taxes. The QBI deduction (Qualified Business Income) is actually helping you by reducing your taxable income, which is saving you some money on this. Without that deduction, your refund would be even lower.
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Yara Campbell
•Thanks for explaining that! But I'm still a bit confused - if I'm paying self-employment tax on the K-1 income, isn't that double taxation? I thought the partnership itself would handle some of this. Also, does the QBI deduction automatically apply or do I need to actually select it somewhere in TurboTax? I didn't see an option for that.
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Ella rollingthunder87
•The partnership doesn't pay tax on behalf of the partners - partnerships are "pass-through" entities, meaning the business itself doesn't pay income taxes. Instead, all profits "pass through" to the partners who report it on their personal returns. So you're not being double-taxed - this is the first and only time this income is being taxed. The QBI deduction should be calculated automatically by TurboTax once you enter your K-1 information. It's worth double-checking this by looking at the Form 8995 or 8995-A in your tax return summary. You can usually view all forms in TurboTax by clicking on "Tax Tools" then "View Tax Summary" and scrolling to find those forms. The deduction should be 20% of your qualified business income, subject to certain limitations.
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Isaac Wright
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Tami Morgan
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Rami Samuels
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Tami Morgan
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Douglas Foster
I'm a tax preparer and see this confusion all the time with first-time K-1 recipients. Here's a simplified breakdown of what's happening in your tax return: 1. Box 1 income ($15,873) gets added to your taxable income → increases income tax 2. Box 14a ($15,873) triggers self-employment tax → additional 15.3% tax on 92.35% of that amount 3. QBI deduction reduces your taxable income by up to 20% of your qualified business income The total tax impact isn't just the income tax on the K-1 amount, but also the self-employment tax. That's why your refund drops more than what TurboTax says is the "tax on K-1." One thing to check: make sure TurboTax isn't double-counting your income. Sometimes if you enter amounts from certain boxes and then also enter the full K-1, it can duplicate the income.
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Tony Brooks
•Thank you for this breakdown! I think I understand now. So just to confirm, even though the business is an LLC, I still have to pay self-employment tax because it's a partnership filing Form 1065? And the QBI deduction only offsets income tax, not self-employment tax, right?
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Douglas Foster
•Yes, exactly right. Being an LLC doesn't exempt you from self-employment tax when the LLC is taxed as a partnership (Form 1065). Partners in partnerships are considered self-employed and must pay self-employment tax on their share of partnership income. And you're correct about the QBI deduction - it only reduces your income tax, not your self-employment tax. That's why even with a substantial QBI deduction, you still see a significant decrease in your refund. The self-employment tax portion has to be paid regardless of the QBI deduction.
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Nina Chan
Has anyone tried checking their self-employment tax calculations manually? Last year TurboTax calculated mine incorrectly and I ended up having to file an amended return. I'm using FreeTaxUSA this year and the numbers look completely different.
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Ruby Knight
•I always verify the self-employment tax calculation manually. The formula is: Box 14a × 0.9235 × 0.153 = self-employment tax. So for the original poster's $15,873, it would be: $15,873 × 0.9235 × 0.153 = approximately $2,240 in SE tax. Then you get to deduct half of that on your 1040. That's probably what's causing the second big drop in the refund.
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Mateusius Townsend
I went through this exact same confusion last year with my first K-1! The math finally made sense when I realized that TurboTax shows the refund changes in real-time as you enter each piece of information, but it doesn't clearly explain what's happening behind the scenes. Your $3,565 drop after entering Box 1 is because that income gets taxed at your marginal tax rate (probably around 22-24% based on your numbers). Then the additional $2,018 drop from Box 14a is the self-employment tax, which Ruby calculated correctly above - about $2,240 minus the deduction you get for half of it. One thing that helped me understand this better was looking at the actual tax forms TurboTax generates. You can usually find Schedule SE (self-employment tax) and Form 8995 (QBI deduction) in your tax summary. Seeing the line-by-line calculations made everything click for me. The good news is your QBI deduction is saving you about $583 in taxes (20% of $15,873 × your tax rate), so without that your refund would be even lower!
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Paolo Ricci
•This is really helpful! I'm new to receiving K-1s and had no idea about the real-time refund changes in TurboTax. Your explanation about the marginal tax rate makes so much sense - I was wondering why the drop seemed so steep. I'm going to look for those Schedule SE and Form 8995 forms in my tax summary like you suggested. It sounds like actually seeing the calculations laid out will help me understand what's happening instead of just watching my refund disappear mysteriously as I enter each box! Quick question - you mentioned the QBI deduction saves about $583 in taxes. Is that something I can verify on Form 8995, or is there another way to see exactly how much the deduction is saving me?
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