Can anyone explain Schedule K-1 box 14C and why it increased my tax bill so much?
I was doing my taxes on TurboTax last night and something weird happened. I have a 50/50 partnership with my brother where we split profits through K-1 income. Our business had a net profit of about $56k each after expenses, but our gross revenue before expenses was around $78k each. When I got to Schedule K-1, box 14C asked for a number that matched my half of the gross revenue ($78k). As soon as I entered that amount, TurboTax showed my tax bill jumping up by several thousand dollars instantly! This makes zero sense to me. The business already accounted for those expenses before the money came to me, so why would my taxes increase so dramatically just from entering box 14C? I've been searching online and all I can find is that box 14C is supposedly for "partner's share of net earnings from self-employment" using the "nonfarm optional method." But I don't understand why entering this would cause such a huge tax increase. Has anyone else dealt with this? Am I missing something about how Schedule K-1 box 14C works?
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Natalia Stone
Box 14C on Schedule K-1 is specifically for reporting your share of self-employment earnings using what's called the "nonfarm optional method." This is different from your regular share of partnership income. What's likely happening is that TurboTax is calculating self-employment tax (Social Security and Medicare taxes) on this amount. Self-employment tax is roughly 15.3% on top of your regular income tax, which would explain the several thousand dollar increase you're seeing. The thing is, you might not need to use the optional method at all. Most partners use the regular method (box 14A), which is based on your actual net earnings. The optional method is typically only used in specific situations where you want to secure Social Security credits but had low or negative net earnings. If your partnership is profitable and you're already reporting income in box 14A, you probably don't need to fill out box 14C unless you're specifically choosing the optional method.
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Nolan Carter
•Wait, so I shouldn't be putting anything in box 14C at all? The K-1 my partnership sent me has numbers in both 14A and 14C. The 14A amount matches our net profit after expenses (about $56k), while the 14C amount matches the gross income before expenses (about $78k). Did our accountant make a mistake?
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Natalia Stone
•Yes, there might be a misunderstanding. Box 14A should show your share of net earnings from self-employment, which is the amount used to calculate your self-employment tax under the regular method. This is typically your share of ordinary business income with some adjustments. Box 14C should only be filled if you're electing to use the optional method, which is uncommon and generally only beneficial in specific situations. Having both boxes filled with different amounts is unusual and could indicate a mistake. The optional method has specific requirements and limitations - it's not simply gross income. I'd recommend reaching out to your partnership's accountant to clarify why they've included an amount in box 14C. It's possible they've misunderstood how this box should be used, or they might have specific reasons for using the optional method that weren't communicated to you.
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Tasia Synder
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Lourdes Fox
Just want to add - I'm an accountant (though not YOUR accountant) and this Box 14C mistake is shockingly common. The partnership instructions are incredibly confusing. Quick explanation: Box 14A is for regular method self-employment income (your actual share of partnership income subject to SE tax). Box 14C is ONLY for the optional method, which lets you pay SE tax on a smaller amount in certain situations. Most partnerships should ONLY fill out Box 14A unless there's a specific reason to use the optional method. Having both filled out almost always indicates a misunderstanding of the form.
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Bruno Simmons
•Is there any legitimate reason why both 14A and 14C would be filled out? My partnership K-1 has both and our accountant insists it's correct, but my taxes jumped up hugely when I entered the 14C amount.
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Lourdes Fox
•There is virtually no legitimate scenario where both Box 14A and 14C should be filled with different amounts on the same K-1. The optional method (14C) is an alternative to the regular method (14A), not something used in addition to it. The optional method is primarily beneficial when you have low or negative net earnings but want to continue qualifying for Social Security credits. It has specific limitations - for 2024 tax year, the maximum optional method amount is capped at $6,120, not your gross revenue amount. If your accountant has entered your gross revenue in Box 14C, that's almost certainly incorrect. The optional method isn't based on gross revenue, and it isn't meant to be used alongside the regular method. I'd strongly recommend getting a second opinion or asking your accountant to explain their specific reasoning with references to the IRS instructions.
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Aileen Rodriguez
I messed up exactly this way last year! Box 14C is seriously confusing. Our partnership accountant filled in both 14A and 14C. When I entered both in TurboTax, my taxes went up by $4.7k. I freaked out and called our accountant who realized he made a mistake. The fix was simple - just leave Box 14C blank when entering info in TurboTax. Unless you specifically want to use the optional method (most people don't), you should only be using the amount in Box 14A for your self-employment tax calculation.
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Zane Gray
•Thanks for sharing this! Do you know if there's a way to tell if your partnership SHOULD be using the optional method? My business had a rough year with barely any profit, but we had decent gross revenue.
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Leo McDonald
•The optional method might actually be worth considering in your situation! If your partnership had low net earnings but decent gross revenue, the optional method could help you qualify for Social Security credits. Here's the key: the optional method lets you pay self-employment tax on either 2/3 of your gross farm income OR $6,120 (whichever is smaller) for nonfarm businesses, even if your actual net earnings were much lower. This can be beneficial if you want to maintain your Social Security work credits for the year. However, you'd need to calculate whether paying the extra self-employment tax is worth it for the Social Security credits. If your net earnings were very low or negative, it might make sense. But if you had reasonable profit, you're probably better off sticking with the regular method in Box 14A. I'd suggest running the numbers both ways or consulting with a tax professional who understands partnership taxation to see which method benefits you more in your specific situation.
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Yuki Tanaka
This is exactly the kind of confusion that trips up so many partnership tax filers! You're right to question this - having both Box 14A and 14C filled out with such different amounts (net vs gross) is a major red flag. From what you've described, your partnership accountant likely made an error. Box 14C should only contain an amount if you're specifically electing the nonfarm optional method, which has a maximum of $6,120 for 2024 - not your $78k gross revenue figure. The sudden tax increase you're seeing is because TurboTax is calculating self-employment tax on that $78k amount in addition to your regular income tax. That's an extra $11,934 in SE tax (15.3% x $78k) that you shouldn't owe if the form was prepared correctly. Here's what I'd recommend: 1. Contact your partnership accountant immediately to clarify why they filled Box 14C 2. For now, only enter the Box 14A amount in TurboTax and leave 14C blank 3. If your accountant can't provide a valid reason for using the optional method, request a corrected K-1 Most profitable partnerships should only use Box 14A. Don't let this mistake cost you thousands in unnecessary taxes!
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QuantumQuest
•This is incredibly helpful! I had no idea that Box 14C had such a low maximum ($6,120). That makes it crystal clear that putting $78k in there was completely wrong. I'm definitely going to follow your advice and contact our accountant first thing Monday morning. It's frustrating that this kind of basic error could have cost me nearly $12k in unnecessary taxes if I hadn't questioned it. One quick question - when you say "leave 14C blank" in TurboTax, do you mean just skip that field entirely, or should I enter zero? I want to make sure I don't accidentally trigger the optional method calculation. Thanks for breaking this down so clearly. This thread has been a lifesaver!
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Kara Yoshida
This exact scenario happened to my business partner and me two years ago! We had a very similar setup - 50/50 partnership, profitable year, but our K-1 had both boxes filled out incorrectly. The key thing to understand is that Box 14C is specifically for the "nonfarm optional method" which has a statutory maximum of $6,120 for 2024 (and was lower in previous years). Your accountant putting $78k in there is definitely wrong - that's not how the optional method works at all. What's happening is TurboTax is treating that $78k as additional self-employment income on top of your regular partnership income, hence the massive tax increase. You're essentially being double-taxed on a large portion of your income. Here's what worked for us: We contacted our accountant with the specific IRS regulations (found in Publication 533) showing that the optional method has strict limits and specific use cases. Our accountant admitted the error and issued corrected K-1s with only Box 14A filled out. The corrected return saved us about $8,400 in unnecessary self-employment taxes. Don't let your accountant brush this off - the regulations are very clear that most profitable partnerships should only use Box 14A.
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