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Oliver Brown

Schedule K-1 box 14C causing huge tax increase - what am I missing?

I was filling out my taxes on TurboTax last night and nearly had a heart attack when I entered the number from box 14C on my K-1. My tax bill shot up by several thousand dollars instantly! Some background - I'm in a 50/50 partnership with my brother where we split everything down the middle. After paying all business expenses, we each netted around $58k from the business last year. But our gross revenue before expenses was about $81k each. Box 14C shows my half of the gross amount ($81k). When I plugged that $81k figure into Box 14C in TurboTax, my tax owed immediately jumped by like $4,500! I'm totally confused. The business already accounted for those expenses before distributing profits to me, so why would my taxes increase so dramatically when entering this number? I've been searching online and all I can find is that box 14C is for "partner's share to figure net earnings from self-employment under the nonfarm optional method." What does that even mean? Has anyone dealt with this before?

Mary Bates

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The reason your tax bill jumped is because Box 14C represents your share of gross receipts for self-employment tax purposes. This is separate from your income tax calculation. When you enter Box 14C, TurboTax is probably calculating your self-employment tax (Social Security and Medicare) based on this amount. Self-employment tax is roughly 15.3% on net earnings from self-employment. The confusion stems from how partnerships report this information. Your K-1 should also have an amount in Box 14A, which is your actual self-employment income after expenses. That's the amount your SE tax should be calculated on, not the Box 14C amount. If you haven't already, make sure you've properly entered all parts of your K-1, especially Box 14A. TurboTax should ask for all relevant boxes, not just 14C alone. The software needs all the pieces to calculate things correctly.

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Oliver Brown

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Thanks for explaining! I did enter Box 14A already, which shows my actual net earnings of $58k. So why would TurboTax still need the Box 14C amount? Is it double-counting something? Also, our accountant checked a box on the K-1 for "Final K-1" since we're dissolving the partnership this year. Could that be affecting how TurboTax is handling these numbers?

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Mary Bates

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Box 14C is needed because it's part of a calculation for an optional method of figuring self-employment tax. This optional method can sometimes be beneficial for businesses with low profits but high gross receipts. When you enter both Box 14A and 14C, TurboTax is supposed to calculate whether the regular method or optional method is better for you, and use the more favorable one. It sounds like something might be wrong with how TurboTax is processing this data. The "Final K-1" designation shouldn't affect the tax calculation itself, though it does tell the IRS you won't be receiving future K-1s from this partnership.

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Dananyl Lear

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Check if you entered information in Box 14A accurately. The "nonfarm optional method" in Box 14C is rarely beneficial unless you have low net earnings but want to qualify for more social security credits. In most cases, partners should use the regular method (Box 14A) for calculating self-employment tax. The optional method (using Box 14C) is typically only beneficial in very specific situations where you have low profits but want to ensure you get social security credits for the year. Also, if this is the first year using the optional method, TurboTax might be calculating differently than in previous years, which could explain the sudden jump.

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So could OP just ignore Box 14C completely? Our small partnership has a similar situation and I've always just used Box 14A for the calculation. Never had any issues with the IRS.

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Dananyl Lear

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You can't completely ignore Box 14C as it should be entered on your return, but in most cases, you would not elect to use the optional method that Box 14C relates to. Make sure you answer any TurboTax questions about the "optional method" correctly - typically you want to say "No" when asked if you want to use the optional method calculation. The software needs all the K-1 information for complete reporting, but that doesn't mean it should be using every box for calculating your tax. If you're showing good profits in Box 14A (which seems to be the case here), then the regular method almost always results in lower taxes.

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Ana Rusula

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I had this exact issue last year. The problem might be that TurboTax is using the nonfarm optional method calculation by default instead of the regular method. Try this: 1) Go to the Self-Employment Tax section in TurboTax 2) Look for "Optional Methods" or "Methods for Calculating Self-Employment Tax" 3) Make sure it's set to use the regular method, not the optional method The optional method is rarely beneficial unless you have very low profits or losses but want to qualify for Social Security credits. With $58k in earnings, you definitely want the regular method.

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Fidel Carson

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Do you know if this affects state taxes too? I'm in California and my state tax bill seems weirdly high as well after entering my K-1 info.

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CosmicCowboy

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This is a common issue with TurboTax and K-1 forms! The key thing to understand is that Box 14C is only used for the "nonfarm optional method" of calculating self-employment tax, which is almost never beneficial for partnerships with decent profits like yours. Here's what's likely happening: TurboTax is automatically applying the optional method when you enter Box 14C, even though you should be using the regular method based on Box 14A ($58k). To fix this in TurboTax: 1. Go to the Federal Taxes section 2. Find "Self-Employment Tax" 3. Look for a question about "Optional Method" - make sure you select NO 4. Verify that your SE tax is being calculated on the Box 14A amount, not Box 14C The optional method is really only useful if you have very low net earnings but want to ensure you get Social Security credits. With $58k in net earnings, you're way better off with the regular method. Your SE tax should be calculated on roughly $58k, not $81k. If you can't find these settings, try deleting the Box 14C entry temporarily to see if your tax bill drops back down, then re-enter it while specifically declining the optional method.

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Talia Klein

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This is exactly what happened to me! I was panicking when my tax bill jumped by thousands just from entering that one box. Your step-by-step instructions worked perfectly - I found the optional method setting buried in the self-employment section and switched it to "NO." My tax calculation immediately dropped back to what it should be. It's crazy that TurboTax doesn't make this more obvious since most people with profitable partnerships shouldn't be using the optional method. Thanks for the clear explanation!

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