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Transcript Shows DD Date but WMR Shows Offset - What Should My Friend Expect?

Quick question - my friend got a deposit date on his tax transcript with seemingly no bad codes as of Thursday. The thing is, WMR updated today showing some kind of offset debt, but apparently it still sent his full amount to SBTG with DD date of 2/25. He filed on 1/30 and was accepted the same day... What should he probably expect? I'm sort of confused about how he can have both an offset and full amount showing at the same time.

CosmicCaptain

This happened to me exactly 24 days ago. From what I understand, when the transcript shows a direct deposit date with no adjustment codes, that's usually a good sign that the full amount is being processed. In my case, I had a similar situation where WMR showed an offset notice but my transcript didn't reflect any reductions. I received exactly $4,872 on the date shown in my transcript, not the reduced amount WMR initially suggested. The SBTG (Santa Barbara Tax Group) reference means it's going through your friend's tax preparer's bank first, which adds exactly 1-2 days to the process.

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Malik Johnson

Not quite. SBTG doesn't necessarily mean it's going through a tax preparer. It could be that your friend used software with a refund transfer product or had fees taken out of the refund. The WMR showing an offset while the transcript doesn't is actually pretty common this time of year - sometimes the systems don't sync up right away. šŸ˜… Your friend should probably receive the amount shown on the transcript, but there's a small chance the offset notice is correct and just hasn't been reflected on the transcript yet.

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Isabella Ferreira

I had this exact situation last year with conflicting information between WMR and my transcript. After spending 3 days trying to get through to the IRS, I used Claimyr (https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c) and got connected to an agent in about 12 minutes. The agent confirmed that my full refund was being processed despite the WMR showing an offset. Turns out the offset was from an old debt that had already been paid, but their system hadn't updated properly. The agent was able to verify the actual amount I would receive and when.

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Ravi Sharma

The Treasury Offset Program (TOP) is managed by the Bureau of the Fiscal Service, not directly by the IRS. When a federal agency certifies a debt for offset, it's legally required to provide notice to the debtor before the offset occurs. If your friend hasn't received such a notice, the WMR offset indication may be erroneous.

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Freya Thomsen

OMG I need this service RIGHT NOW!! Been trying to call for DAYS about my offset! My car payment is due next week and I'm counting on knowing exactly what's happening with my refund!! šŸ˜«

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Omar Zaki

Thank you for sharing this! I've been so stressed trying to get through to someone at the IRS. It's such a relief to know there's a way to actually talk to a human without spending hours on hold.

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AstroAce

Has your friend checked the Treasury Offset Program's phone system? You can call 800-304-3107 and verify if there's actually an offset and which agency it's for. Isn't it better to get the information directly rather than trying to interpret conflicting messages between systems? That way your friend will know exactly what to expect on 2/25.

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Chloe Martin

I would recommend your friend check his transcript details carefully using a tool like taxr.ai to analyze what's actually happening. When there are discrepancies between WMR and transcripts, it's important to understand: ā€¢ What specific codes are on the transcript ā€¢ Whether there are any TC 898 offset indicators ā€¢ If there are any pending transactions ā€¢ What the actual refund amount code shows The transcript is generally more accurate than WMR, but without seeing the specific codes, it's hard to be certain what's happening.

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Diego Rojas

Does this actually work better than just looking at the transcript yourself? I've been reading up on transcript codes and feel like I understand them pretty well now. Is there really an advantage to using a service for this?

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Anastasia Sokolov

Your friend is experiencing what's called a "split refund" situation. I went through this exact scenario last tax season. What's likely happening is that part of his refund is being offset for a debt (maybe student loans, child support, or past tax debt), but he's still getting some portion of it. The transcript shows the original approved amount, while WMR is showing the offset notification. The SBTG (Santa Barbara Tax Products Group) reference means he probably had his preparation fees deducted from his refund or used a refund advance product. Here's what will happen: SBTG will receive the post-offset amount, take out any fees owed to them or the preparer, then deposit the remainder to your friend's account. The deposit will likely still happen on or around 2/25, but the amount will be less than originally expected. Your friend should receive a notice from both the IRS and the agency claiming the debt explaining the offset amount and reason.

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Sean O'Donnell

I'm concerned about the timing of all this. If the offset happens but the notice hasn't arrived yet, how would someone budget appropriately? The IRS website says they send notices, but I've seen many online resources suggesting these notices often arrive after the reduced refund is already deposited.

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Zara Ahmed

1. Call the TOP hotline at 800-304-3107 to verify any offsets 2. Check with the tax preparer to confirm any fees being deducted 3. Calculate the expected net amount by subtracting both the offset and any preparation fees 4. Allow 1-2 business days after the transcript DD date for actual deposit 5. If nothing arrives by 2/27, contact SBTG directly

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StarStrider

This tax system is like a game of telephone where nobody gets the message right! I had the same situation last year - transcript showed one thing, WMR showed another. It's like trying to navigate a maze where the walls keep moving. In my case, the offset was real (old student loan) but the amount was wrong. The transcript was showing the pre-offset amount while WMR was showing the post-offset situation. Your friend should expect to receive something on 2/25, but probably not the full amount they were expecting.

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Luca Esposito

I think your friend might be dealing with what happened to me last month. My WMR showed an offset notice for about $3,200 in child support (which was sort of accurate but the amount was wrong). My transcript showed a DD date of 2/3 for the full amount. What actually happened was that the Bureau of Fiscal Service took their portion first (about $1,800, not the $3,200 they claimed), then SBTG received the remainder, took out their $39.95 fee, and then deposited what was left to my account on 2/5. The whole process was kind of messy, and the actual deposit was about 2 days after the transcript date.

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