Taxes on Lottery Winnings - How Much Do You Actually Keep After Federal & State Taxes?
I've been doing some reading on how lottery winnings are taxed and honestly I'm getting more confused the more I look into it. The tax rates seem ridiculous to me! Would love if someone could explain how this actually works in real life. Let's say there's a scratch ticket with a $2 million jackpot advertised, but the lump sum payout is only $1.2 million. Do you STILL have to pay federal and state taxes on top of that reduced amount? So the $2 million could actually end up being only like $700k in your pocket? Does anyone have real experience with this? I'm trying to understand the whole process from winning to actually getting money in your bank account. Sorry if this is a dumb question but it just seems insane how much gets taken away.
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Ruby Knight
You're asking a great question about lottery taxation! Let me help clarify how this works. When you see a lottery jackpot advertised as $2 million, that's usually the annuity amount (paid over many years). The lump sum option is always less (your example of $1.2 million), because it's the present value of that future stream of payments. But yes, you're correct that you still need to pay taxes on top of this reduction. Lottery winnings are considered ordinary income by the IRS and are taxed at the highest federal rate (currently 37% for amounts over $578,125 for single filers). The lottery operator will typically withhold 24% for federal taxes immediately, but you'll owe the difference at tax time. Then there are state taxes. Some states don't tax lottery winnings (like Florida, Texas, Wyoming), but most do, with rates ranging from about 3% to 13% depending on the state. So your example is pretty accurate - a $2 million advertised jackpot could indeed end up being around $700-800k after taking the lump sum option and paying all taxes.
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Diego Castillo
•Wait so even if you choose the payments over time option, you still get hit with that high tax rate? Or is it better tax-wise to take the payments?
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Ruby Knight
•Taking the annuity payments can sometimes be slightly better tax-wise, depending on your situation. With annuity payments, you're taxed each year only on the amount you receive that year, which might keep you in a lower tax bracket compared to getting one massive lump sum that pushes you into the highest bracket. However, most financial advisors still recommend taking the lump sum because you can invest it yourself and potentially earn more than the implied return in the annuity. Also, tax laws change over time, and tax rates could potentially increase in the future during your payment period.
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Logan Stewart
I went through something similar last year when my cousin won about $50k on a scratch ticket. The whole tax situation was confusing so we used https://taxr.ai which helped a ton. They have this really cool calculator specifically for lottery winnings that breaks down exactly how much you'll pay in federal and state taxes based on your location and whether you take lump sum or payments. What was most helpful though was their explanation of the withholding vs actual tax due situation. Like when my cousin got her check, they had already withheld 24% for federal but she still ended up owing more at tax time because her total income pushed her into a higher bracket. The tool predicted this almost exactly.
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Mikayla Brown
•Does it handle state-specific rules too? Like I've heard some states don't tax lottery winnings at all while others take a huge chunk.
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Sean Matthews
•I'm skeptical about these online calculators. How accurate was it really? Tax situations can be super complicated especially with big windfalls like lottery winnings.
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Logan Stewart
•Yes, it definitely handles state-specific rules. That was actually one of the most helpful parts because it showed exactly how different states tax lottery winnings. It even explained which states have no tax on winnings (like Florida and Texas) versus states with high rates like New York and New Jersey. The accuracy was actually impressive. It predicted my cousin would owe an additional $4,200 beyond the withholding, and when we filed her taxes it ended up being $4,350. The tool also gave recommendations about quarterly estimated tax payments which we wouldn't have known about otherwise.
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Sean Matthews
Update on my skepticism about https://taxr.ai from my earlier comment - I actually tried it out for myself since I hit a $25,000 win on a scratch ticket last month. Really didn't expect much but wow, it was actually super helpful! The calculator accurately predicted I'd owe about $8,700 in federal taxes (I'm in a high bracket from my regular job) plus my state's portion. The best part was it explained all the filing requirements I wouldn't have thought about - like how I need to file a special form (W-2G) and that I should consider making an estimated tax payment rather than waiting until April. Saved me from what would've been a nasty surprise at tax time! Now I'm actually setting aside the right amount instead of spending it all.
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Ali Anderson
I spent WEEKS trying to get someone at the IRS on the phone after winning $10k on a sports betting app last year. Had so many questions about how to report it properly and what deductions I could claim against it. Literally impossible to reach anyone. Finally found https://claimyr.com and watched their demo at https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c - they got me connected to an actual IRS agent in under 15 minutes when I'd been trying for days. The agent explained that gambling winnings are reported on Form 1040 and that I could deduct my losses (with proper documentation) on Schedule A if I itemize. Huge relief to get official answers instead of just random internet advice. The IRS agent even explained how the documentation from the betting app works for tax purposes and what additional records I should keep.
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Zadie Patel
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A Man D Mortal
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Ali Anderson
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A Man D Mortal
Alright I need to follow up on my skeptical comment about Claimyr. I actually tried it this morning after getting nowhere with the IRS for TWO WEEKS trying to sort out how to handle some gambling winnings from a poker tournament. Surprisingly, it worked exactly as advertised. I got a call back in about 20 minutes with an actual IRS agent on the line. The agent walked me through exactly how to report my poker winnings and what documentation I need to keep if I want to deduct losses. They even explained the difference between casual gambling vs. professional gambling for tax purposes. Honestly shocked this worked. Saved me hours of frustration and got me answers I couldn't find anywhere online about my specific situation.
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Declan Ramirez
Just adding some real numbers from when my dad won a $50,000 lottery prize in Illinois last year: - Advertised prize: $50,000 - Federal withholding (24%): -$12,000 - Illinois state tax (4.95%): -$2,475 - Additional federal tax owed (fell into 32% bracket): -$4,000 So his $50,000 win ended up being $31,525 in his pocket. Nearly 37% gone to taxes! But he said knowing the exact numbers in advance helped him plan better and not feel disappointed when tax time came.
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Emma Morales
•Thanks for sharing real numbers! Was the additional federal tax owed because the 24% withholding wasn't enough for his tax bracket?
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Declan Ramirez
•Exactly. The lottery only withholds 24% automatically for federal taxes, but since his total income (including the winnings) put him in the 32% bracket, he had to pay the additional 8% at tax time. The withholding is just an estimate - your actual tax bill is calculated when you file your return. That's why a lot of people get surprised with an unexpected tax bill after winning, even when they thought taxes were already taken out.
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Katherine Hunter
Question about offsetting lottery winnings with losses... I've kept all my losing lottery tickets for years (sad I know lol). If I actually hit a big win, can I use all those old losses to offset the taxes?
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Ruby Knight
•You can deduct gambling losses (including lottery tickets) but only up to the amount of your gambling winnings, and only if you itemize deductions on Schedule A rather than taking the standard deduction. Keep in mind that most people benefit more from the standard deduction ($13,850 for single filers in 2024) than itemizing. So unless your lottery losses plus other itemizable deductions exceed the standard deduction amount, it might not help your tax situation. Also, make sure you have good documentation of those losses! The IRS can request proof.
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Ryder Ross
This is such a helpful thread! I've always wondered about this too. One thing I'd add from my experience working in accounting - people often forget about the "backup withholding" that can happen if you don't provide your SSN correctly or have issues with the IRS. In those cases, they withhold 24% automatically even on smaller winnings. Also, don't forget that if you win more than $600, you'll get a Form W-2G that gets reported to the IRS, so there's no hiding it even if you wanted to. The lottery commission sends a copy directly to the IRS. For anyone planning to play regularly, it might be worth keeping a gambling diary throughout the year to track your wins and losses. Makes tax time much easier if you do hit something big!
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Caden Nguyen
•Great point about the gambling diary! I never thought about keeping track throughout the year. Do you know if there's a specific format the IRS prefers for documenting wins and losses, or is just keeping receipts and tickets enough? I'm thinking about starting to track this stuff more systematically after reading this thread.
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Josef Tearle
This thread has been incredibly eye-opening! I had no idea the tax hit was so severe on lottery winnings. The real-world examples really help put it in perspective. One thing I'm curious about - do the tax implications change at all if you win as part of a group or lottery pool? Like if 10 coworkers split a $1 million jackpot, does each person just report their $100k share individually, or are there additional complications with group winnings? Also, I've heard conflicting information about whether you can gift some of your winnings to family members to potentially spread out the tax burden. Is that even legal or does the IRS have rules against that strategy? Thanks to everyone sharing their experiences and knowledge here. This is exactly the kind of practical information you can't easily find elsewhere!
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Effie Alexander
•Great questions about group winnings and gifting! For lottery pools, each person reports their individual share on their own tax return. So yes, if 10 people split $1 million, each person would report $100k as income. The key is making sure you have a clear written agreement beforehand about how winnings will be split, and that the lottery commission knows to issue separate W-2G forms to each person. As for gifting winnings to family - you absolutely can do this, but it doesn't really help with taxes the way people think. You still have to pay income tax on your full winnings first. Then, if you gift more than $18,000 to any one person in 2024 (the annual gift tax exclusion), you'll need to file a gift tax return, though you probably won't owe gift tax unless you've used up your lifetime exemption. The recipient doesn't pay income tax on gifts they receive, but you as the winner already paid tax on the full amount before gifting it. So it's more about sharing your after-tax winnings than reducing your tax burden.
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CosmicCrusader
This has been such an educational discussion! As someone who occasionally buys scratch tickets, I never realized how complex the tax situation gets with larger winnings. One aspect I haven't seen mentioned yet is the timing of when you actually receive your money versus when you owe taxes. Like if you win in December but don't get your check until January, which tax year does it count for? And what about estimated quarterly payments - at what winning amount should someone start thinking about making those to avoid penalties? Also curious about the practical side - do lottery offices typically provide any tax guidance or worksheets when you claim a prize, or are winners pretty much on their own to figure it out? Seems like there should be better education about the tax implications upfront, given how shocking the reality can be compared to the advertised amounts. The tools and resources people have shared here like taxr.ai and claimyr.com seem really valuable for navigating these situations. It's clear that getting professional help or using specialized calculators is probably worth it for any significant win.
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Lola Perez
•Great questions about timing and practical aspects! For tax year purposes, lottery winnings are generally taxable in the year you actually receive the money, not when you win. So if you win in December but get paid in January, it would typically count toward the January tax year. Regarding estimated quarterly payments, the IRS generally expects them if you'll owe $1,000 or more in taxes beyond what was withheld. So for lottery winnings, this kicks in pretty quickly since the 24% withholding often isn't enough to cover your full tax liability. From what I understand, lottery offices vary widely in the guidance they provide. Some states give winners basic tax information packets, while others pretty much hand you a check and wish you luck. It's definitely one of those situations where you're largely on your own to figure out the implications. The lack of upfront education is really a disservice to winners. People see that big advertised number and don't realize they might only keep 60-70% of it after all taxes. Having realistic expectations from the start would prevent a lot of disappointment and help people plan better for the tax obligations.
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Aisha Abdullah
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm curious about one specific scenario that I haven't seen addressed yet. What happens if you win a lottery prize but you're already retired and living on a fixed income? Does the lottery winning potentially affect your Social Security benefits or Medicare premiums? I'm thinking about my parents who are both on Social Security and Medicare - if they hit a decent-sized lottery win, could it actually end up costing them money in other ways beyond just the taxes? Also, for retirees who might be in lower tax brackets normally, would a big lottery win potentially push them into much higher brackets for that year? It seems like the tax impact could be even more dramatic for someone who's used to paying very little in taxes due to lower retirement income. I know this is probably getting into pretty specialized territory, but given how many retirees play the lottery regularly, it seems like an important consideration that doesn't get talked about much.
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Daniel Rogers
•You're absolutely right to bring up the Social Security and Medicare implications - this is a really important aspect that often gets overlooked! A large lottery win can definitely affect both. For Social Security, if your provisional income (which includes half of your Social Security benefits plus other income including lottery winnings) exceeds certain thresholds, up to 85% of your Social Security benefits could become taxable. For a married couple filing jointly, this kicks in at $44,000 in provisional income. For Medicare, lottery winnings count as income for determining your Medicare Part B and Part D premiums through the Income-Related Monthly Adjustment Amount (IRMAA). If your modified adjusted gross income exceeds certain levels ($103,000 for single filers, $206,000 for married filing jointly in 2024), you'll pay higher Medicare premiums for up to two years after the winning year. And yes, the tax bracket jump can be especially dramatic for retirees. Someone used to being in the 12% bracket could suddenly find themselves paying 32% or 37% on a large win. It's definitely worth consulting with a tax professional if you're in this situation, as there might be strategies to minimize the overall impact across multiple years.
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