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Andre Moreau

Taxation questions for employee with Profits Interest in LLC - employment status confusion

I'm currently studying for my EA exams so I have decent tax knowledge, but I'm still not confident enough to challenge my spouse's employer about this situation. My husband has been with this company for about 2 years as a regular salaried employee. Back in February, he received profits interests in the company, and we filed an 83b election for those interests. After reading through their operating agreement, it seems pretty clear to me that he's now technically an LLC member. Here's what's confusing me - from what I understand, he shouldn't be treated as a W-2 employee anymore once he has LLC membership with profits interests. But his paychecks still have all the regular withholdings - Federal, State, and FICA taxes taken out. My understanding was that we'd need to pay self-employment taxes on his income instead of having FICA withholding. I'm looking for another perspective on this before I bring it up with his employer. Is it possible to simultaneously be a W-2 employee AND have profits interests as an LLC member? Does anyone have experience with this type of arrangement? The tax treatment seems inconsistent to me.

Zoe Stavros

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This is actually a common area of confusion! Your husband can potentially be both an employee and a member of the LLC with profits interests. The IRS has something called the "dual status" concept. If your husband performs services as an employee that are separate from his rights as an owner with profits interests, the company can still treat him as a W-2 employee for his regular salary. The profits interest portion (when distributions occur) would be reported on Schedule K-1 and subject to different tax treatment. The key is whether the operating agreement specifically changes his employment relationship. Many companies structure these arrangements intentionally to maintain the employment relationship while adding ownership benefits. Unless the operating agreement explicitly terminated his employment status, the current withholding approach may be correct. Look for language in the agreement about whether his employment status changed or if this is an "in addition to" arrangement. Also check if there are any guaranteed payments specified versus regular employment compensation.

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Andre Moreau

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Thank you for this explanation! That makes a lot more sense. The operating agreement doesn't specifically terminate his employment, it just adds the membership interest. It does separate his "employee compensation" from any potential distributions. So would his regular salary still be subject to FICA, but any profit distributions would be subject to self-employment tax? Or do profit distributions get different treatment altogether?

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Zoe Stavros

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His regular salary would continue being subject to FICA taxes (with the employer paying half), which is actually financially beneficial compared to self-employment tax. For the profit distributions, it gets a bit more complex. Since he has profits interests in the LLC, distributions would be reported on Schedule K-1 and flow through to your personal return. These amounts aren't subject to self-employment tax if they represent passive investment returns. However, if he's actively participating in the business, some portion might be considered self-employment income. What many people don't realize is that the tax treatment really depends on how the arrangement is structured in the operating agreement. If you have access to that document, look for how they classify distributions versus guaranteed payments.

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Jamal Harris

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How does it handle 83b elections? My company just offered me a profits interest but I'm not sure about filing the 83b and what tax consequences that creates over time. Does the tool help with deciding whether to make the election?

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Jamal Harris

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The operating agreement is really going to be the key document here. My situation sounds almost identical to your husband's, and our company actually made a specific amendment to the operating agreement that distinguished between my role as an employee and my profits interest. The document should spell out whether his status as a member affects his employment relationship. If it doesn't specifically say that his employee status is terminated, then the default assumption is that he maintains both roles separately. Also, from my experience, it's actually financially advantageous to remain a W-2 employee rather than switching entirely to self-employment status. With self-employment, you'd pay both halves of FICA taxes (15.3% total) rather than just the employee half.

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Dylan Cooper

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Do you happen to know if a profits interest member can participate in the company 401k plan as an employee? That's what's confusing me about the dual status situation. If someone is both an employee and a member, can they still get employee benefits?

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Yes, as a dual-status worker (employee and member with profits interest), you can generally still participate in the company's 401k plan for the compensation you receive as an employee. The separation of your roles allows for this. In my case, my regular salary as an employee still qualified for 401k contributions and employer matching, while any distributions from my profits interest were treated separately. The key is that the company maintains clear documentation showing the distinction between employment compensation and ownership distributions.

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Sofia Ramirez

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Have any of you run into issues with reasonable compensation analysis in this situation? Our company's CPA keeps warning us that the IRS might challenge our arrangement if my salary as an employee seems too low compared to the profits distributions I receive as a member.

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Dmitry Volkov

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That's usually more of an S-Corp issue rather than an LLC with profits interests. But your CPA has a valid concern if the arrangement seems designed to avoid employment taxes. The IRS could potentially look at the total compensation package and recharacterize some of the distributions as wages if your employee salary is artificially low.

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Luca Russo

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This is a really insightful discussion! I'm dealing with a similar situation where I received profits interests in my company earlier this year. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is how this affects quarterly estimated tax payments. Even though my regular salary continues to have proper withholdings as a W-2 employee, I'm wondering if I need to start making quarterly payments for the profits interest portion. Since there won't be any withholding on potential K-1 distributions, I'm concerned about underpayment penalties if the company has a profitable year. Has anyone had to adjust their estimated payments after receiving profits interests? I'm trying to figure out if I should start making quarterlies now or wait until I actually receive distributions to see what the tax impact will be.

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