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Hunter Edmunds

Can a multi-member LLC with two S-Corps as members have the S-corps' owners be treated as employees?

I'm in a somewhat complex business structure situation and need some clarity on employment status options. I own an LLC (let's call it "Pinnacle Services") with another business partner. Technically, the LLC has two members, but they're both S-Corps rather than individuals. I own one S-Corp (100% ownership) and my partner owns the other S-Corp (100% ownership). Pinnacle Services currently has partnership tax classification. My accountant gave me some confusing information about whether my partner and I can be W-2 employees of the LLC. I understand that if Pinnacle was officially classified as a partnership for tax purposes, we couldn't be W-2 employees. But since it's an LLC with S-Corps as members, I'm unclear on the rules. Questions I need help with: 1. Can my partner and I be W-2 employees of our LLC even though we're technically owners of the S-Corps that are the LLC members? 2. If we can't be employees now, would changing Pinnacle's tax classification from partnership to S-Corp make a difference? 3. Does it matter whether our individual S-Corps are structured as LLCs or Corporations? I'd appreciate any references to authoritative sources on this. My CPA seems uncertain and I want to make sure we're setting this up correctly.

Ella Lewis

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This is a good tax planning question! The key factor here isn't actually the legal structure (LLC) but rather how the entity is classified for tax purposes. In your case, your LLC elected partnership taxation, so it's treated as a partnership for tax purposes regardless of the LLC wrapper. Because of this, the owners of the S-Corps (you and your partner) cannot be W-2 employees of the LLC. Partners in a partnership cannot be employees of that same partnership for federal tax purposes - they're considered self-employed. However, if you changed your LLC's tax classification to an S-Corporation (which is possible), then yes, you and your partner could potentially become W-2 employees of the LLC/S-Corp. You'd each need to take reasonable salaries based on your services, with the remainder of distributions as non-wage distributions. The legal entity structure of the member S-Corps (whether they're formed as LLCs electing S-Corp status or actual corporations electing S-Corp status) doesn't impact whether you can be employees of the parent LLC. What matters is how the parent LLC is classified for tax purposes.

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This is super helpful but I'm still a bit confused. If the LLC is taxed as a partnership, can the two S-Corps (as the actual members of the LLC) hire the individuals as W-2 employees, and then have the S-Corps provide services to the LLC? Or would this arrangement create other issues?

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Ella Lewis

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Yes, that's a common workaround. The S-Corps (as the members of the LLC) can absolutely hire you and your partner as W-2 employees of your respective S-Corporations. Then the S-Corps provide services to the LLC. This is actually the standard arrangement for S-Corps - their owners typically receive both W-2 wages and distributions from the S-Corp. The S-Corps would then receive distributions from the LLC based on ownership percentage. This can be advantageous for self-employment tax purposes as only the salary portion is subject to payroll taxes.

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Emma Swift

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A few important points about multi-member LLCs with S-Corps as members: 1. An LLC taxed as a partnership can't have the individuals as W-2 employees, but the S-Corps can have their owners as W-2 employees 2. If you convert the LLC to S-Corp status, you'll lose some flexibility in allocations and distributions that partnerships allow 3. When S-Corps are members of an LLC taxed as a partnership, the LLC income flows through to the S-Corps, then to the individual owners, avoiding self-employment tax at the individual level 4. The IRS watches these structures carefully for reasonable compensation issues I've had this exact structure for 5+ years. The key is making sure your operating agreement and conduct align with your tax classifications.

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Thanks for sharing your experience! If I keep the LLC as partnership for tax purposes and have the S-Corps hire us as employees, are there any specific issues I should watch for with the service agreements between the LLC and the S-Corps? I want to make sure everything is properly documented.

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Emma Swift

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Absolutely document everything properly. You'll want formal service agreements between the LLC and each S-Corp that clearly outline the services provided, compensation terms, and relationship. Make sure the agreements reflect actual business reality. The biggest issue to watch for is ensuring your S-Corp salary is "reasonable compensation" - the IRS looks closely at this. Too low a salary with high distributions can trigger audits. Document why your salary level is appropriate for the services rendered. Also be careful about expense allocations between entities - you want clear documentation showing which entity actually incurred each expense.

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Has anyone looked into whether state tax laws might treat this differently? I know for federal purposes what everyone's saying about tax classification controlling is right, but I'm in California and they sometimes have their own weird rules about business entities.

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Jayden Hill

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Great point about state differences. California is particularly problematic with these structures. They impose an LLC fee on top of the taxes that flow through to the S-Corps. Also, California doesn't always follow federal tax treatment - they've been known to challenge arrangements that are valid federally.

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Emma Bianchi

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This is a really complex area that trips up a lot of business owners! I've been dealing with similar multi-entity structures for years as a tax preparer, and I wanted to add a few practical considerations that might help. One thing that often gets overlooked is the administrative burden of maintaining multiple entities properly. You'll need separate bank accounts, separate books, formal resolutions for major decisions, and regular distributions documented properly. The IRS loves to challenge structures where the paperwork doesn't match the claimed entity separation. Also, consider the timing of distributions. If your LLC (taxed as partnership) makes distributions to the S-Corps, and then the S-Corps need to pay your salaries, you'll want to coordinate the cash flow carefully. I've seen situations where the S-Corp doesn't have enough cash to pay reasonable salaries because the LLC distributions weren't timed properly. One more thought - if you're considering converting the LLC to S-Corp status instead, remember that you'll lose the flexibility to make special allocations that partnerships allow. With an S-Corp, everything has to be pro-rata based on ownership percentages. I'd strongly recommend getting a second opinion from a CPA who specializes in multi-entity structures before making any changes. The tax savings can be significant, but the compliance requirements are real.

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Natalie Wang

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This is exactly the kind of practical insight I was hoping to find! The administrative burden aspect is something my accountant mentioned but didn't really elaborate on. I'm already feeling overwhelmed just thinking about maintaining separate books for three entities. Quick question on the cash flow timing - how far in advance do you typically recommend planning the distributions to ensure the S-Corps have enough cash for payroll? And are there any specific documentation requirements for the resolutions you mentioned that go beyond standard corporate formalities? I think you're right about getting a second opinion. My current CPA seems uncertain about some of these multi-entity nuances, so I might need to find someone who specializes in this area.

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