Can I use a Partnership/LLC instead of S corp to pay a Family Management Company?
So I've been looking into setting up a Family Management Company to help consolidate some of our family business interests, but I'm getting conflicting advice about the structure. My accountant initially suggested setting up an S corporation to pay the Family Management Company, but I'm wondering if I could use a Partnership or LLC structure instead? The main reason I'm asking is that the flexibility of an LLC seems better for our situation - less paperwork and formalities. We have about 5 family members who would be involved, with varying levels of participation. Our combined business interests generate around $875,000 annually. Would using a Partnership/LLC create any tax disadvantages compared to the S corp approach? Are there specific IRS regulations that would make one structure better than the other for paying a Family Management Company? Any insights from those who've set up something similar would be super helpful!
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The Boss
You can definitely use either structure to pay a Family Management Company, but there are important tax implications to consider. With an S corp, you'll benefit from avoiding self-employment taxes on distributions beyond a reasonable salary, which can save you roughly 15.3% on those amounts. However, you must maintain corporate formalities like regular meetings, minutes, and strict separation of business/personal finances. A Partnership/LLC offers more flexibility in management and profit allocation, and can be especially beneficial if family members have varying levels of involvement. The LLC can elect to be taxed as a partnership (pass-through) or even as an S corp if you later decide that's advantageous. The best structure really depends on your specific situation: expected profits, how you'll distribute income, who's actively working in the business, and long-term goals. Neither option is inherently "required" for a Family Management Company.
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Evan Kalinowski
•This is helpful, but I'm confused about the self-employment tax part. If I go with an LLC taxed as a partnership, wouldn't ALL distributions be subject to self-employment tax? And if so, wouldn't that make the S corp way better from a tax perspective?
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The Boss
•You're absolutely right to question this - it's a common point of confusion. With an LLC taxed as a partnership, generally all ordinary income allocated to members who materially participate in the business is subject to self-employment tax. This is different from an S corporation where only the reasonable salary is subject to employment taxes. However, not all LLC income is necessarily subject to self-employment tax. For example, certain types of passive income like rental income, capital gains, and income allocated to limited partners or non-participating members may be exempt from self-employment tax. Additionally, an LLC can elect to be taxed as an S corporation to potentially achieve the same tax treatment.
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Victoria Charity
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Lauren Zeb
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Daniel Washington
Something nobody's mentioned yet is the QBI deduction (Section 199A). Depending on your total income, this could be a big factor in your decision. With an S-corp, only the distributions would potentially qualify for the 20% QBI deduction, while your reasonable salary wouldn't. With a partnership LLC, more of your income might qualify. If your family business income is under the threshold amounts ($170,050 for single filers or $340,100 for joint filers in 2022), this could make a partnership more attractive.
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Aurora Lacasse
•But doesn't the QBI calculation get super complicated when you have a Family Management Company involved? I thought there were special rules for "specified service businesses" and management companies might fall under that?
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Daniel Washington
•You're right that it gets more complicated with a management company structure. The specified service trade or business (SSTB) limitations would potentially apply if the Family Management Company is primarily providing consulting, financial services, or other listed professional services. However, if the management company is genuinely providing management services to operating businesses owned by the family (like oversight, strategic planning, administrative support), and not just disguising professional services, you may avoid the SSTB classification. It really depends on the nature of the actual services being provided.
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Anthony Young
I actually work with several family businesses and one thing to consider is the liability protection aspect. With an S corp, you get clear separation between personal and business liabilities. With an LLC, the protection is there but sometimes less clearly defined depending on your state. For a family management company, where you're potentially dealing with significant family assets, this liability distinction could be important.
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Charlotte White
•Is the liability protection really that different though? I thought LLCs provided the same basic protection as long as you maintain separate finances and don't pierce the corporate veil?
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Anastasia Kozlov
•You're mostly right that LLCs and corporations provide similar liability protection when properly maintained. The key differences are usually in the details of state law and how courts interpret "piercing the veil" scenarios. Some states have slightly stronger statutory protections for LLCs (like charging order protection), while others favor corporations. For family businesses, the bigger risk is often maintaining proper separation when family members are involved - it's easier to accidentally commingle assets or blur business/personal boundaries. The practical advice is to choose based on tax benefits and operational flexibility first, then make sure you maintain proper corporate formalities regardless of which structure you pick. Both can provide excellent liability protection if handled correctly.
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Amara Eze
One factor that hasn't been discussed much is the administrative complexity with 5 family members. With an S corp, you're limited to one class of stock, which can make it challenging if family members want different profit-sharing arrangements or voting rights. An LLC gives you much more flexibility to customize ownership percentages, profit distributions, and management roles through your operating agreement. Given your $875K annual income and varying participation levels, you might want to consider an LLC with different membership classes - some members could be managing members (actively involved) while others are passive investors. This flexibility could be worth more than the potential self-employment tax savings from an S corp structure, especially since you can always elect S corp taxation for the LLC later if your situation changes. The key is making sure your operating agreement clearly defines each member's role and compensation to avoid any IRS scrutiny about whether payments are legitimate business expenses.
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