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Tax Implications of Unrelated Business Taxable Income for Veterans Organizations

I'm helping a local VFW post with their tax situation and need some clarity on unrelated business taxable income (UBTI) rules. They regularly hold fundraising activities including poker nights, pull tabs, and 50/50 raffles. I've been through the IRS guidelines but I'm still confused about whether these activities are considered exempt if they're only open to members and their bona fide guests. The treasurer insists bingo is definitely exempt, but what about the other gaming activities? Does the "substantially all volunteers" exception apply here? Anyone have experience with veteran organizations and these specific gaming activities? The post commander is pushing me for answers before their next board meeting.

This is a tricky area! For veterans' organizations like VFWs and American Legions, gaming activities have special rules under unrelated business taxable income regulations. You're right that bingo is generally exempt from UBTI under IRC 513(f), regardless of who participates. For pull tabs and 50/50 raffles, the answer depends on a few factors. If these activities are conducted with "substantially all" volunteer labor (meaning 85% or more), they may qualify for the volunteer labor exception under 513(a)(1). However, the "members and guests only" rule doesn't automatically exempt these activities - that's a common misconception. The key factors are: who's conducting the games, whether they're open to the public (vs members only), and how the proceeds are used. Veterans organizations should document how gaming proceeds support their exempt purposes like veterans' welfare or community service.

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Thanks for that info. So if I understand correctly, even if our American Legion only allows members and their guests to participate in pull tabs, we still might have UBTI unless we meet that 85% volunteer threshold? What about the "convenience exception" - does that apply here at all?

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The 85% volunteer threshold is indeed crucial for the volunteer labor exception. If paid employees are running the games, that exception won't apply even if participation is limited to members and guests. The "convenience exception" generally applies to activities conducted for the convenience of members, students, patients, etc., but gaming activities typically don't qualify under this exception. Gaming is considered recreational rather than a convenience service like a cafeteria or bookstore would be. The IRS tends to scrutinize gaming activities more carefully because they can generate significant revenue while appearing similar to commercial gambling enterprises.

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How does this actually work? Do you just upload your tax documents and it analyzes everything for you? Our American Legion has been getting conflicting advice from different accountants about our raffles and pull tabs.

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Sounds too good to be true honestly. Our VFW has had 3 different CPAs give us different answers about UBTI for our gaming. How is some website going to know better than actual accountants who specialize in nonprofit work?

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How does this actually work? Do they just wait on hold for you? Our treasurer has been trying to get an answer about our 50/50 raffles for months!

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I don't buy it. The IRS agents I've spoken with barely understand their own rules for exempt orgs. How would getting someone on the phone faster help if they don't know the answers anyway? Seems like a waste of money.

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Former IRS agent here. One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is the "fragmentation rule" that applies to exempt organizations. Each gaming activity needs to be evaluated separately for UBTI purposes. So your organization might have exempt bingo, but taxable pull tabs, depending on how they're conducted. Also, many veteran organizations incorrectly think that regularly carried on gaming activities don't generate UBTI if the proceeds go toward their exempt purpose - that's not how it works. The nature of the activity itself determines if it's subject to UBTI, not how you use the money afterward.

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Can you explain more about this fragmentation rule? Our VFW post combines reporting for all our gaming activities. Should we be separating them out even if they all use volunteer labor?

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Yes, absolutely separate them. The fragmentation rule requires that each activity be evaluated independently for UBTI purposes. Even if they all currently use volunteer labor, they may have different regulatory requirements. For example, bingo has a specific statutory exemption under 513(f), while pull tabs rely on the volunteer labor exception. If your staffing changes and pull tabs suddenly don't meet the 85% volunteer threshold, that activity alone would become taxable while properly conducted bingo would remain exempt. By tracking them separately now, you'll have historical data to demonstrate compliance for each activity type. This becomes crucial during an examination or if you need to file Form 990-T for just one activity in the future.

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Just a heads up that pull tabs rules can vary by state too! Our VFW in Minnesota has different reporting requirements than my brother's post in Wisconsin. The state gambling control board rules interact with the IRS rules in sometimes confusing ways. Make sure you're checking both sets of regulations!

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Good point! In Pennsylvania, our Legion actually had to get a separate small games of chance license for pull tabs, even though we were already licensed for bingo. The state regulations definitely impact how you need to structure things for federal tax purposes too.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! As someone who works with multiple veteran organizations, I want to emphasize the importance of keeping detailed volunteer hour logs for each gaming activity. The IRS requires documentation showing that at least 85% of the work is performed by volunteers to qualify for the exception. One practical tip: create separate volunteer sign-in sheets for each activity (bingo, pull tabs, raffles) and track both setup/breakdown time and actual operation time. Many organizations only track the time during the actual games, but setup and cleanup count toward your volunteer percentage too. Also, be careful about "volunteers" who receive regular compensation in other forms - like free meals, merchandise, or reduced membership dues. The IRS may not consider these true volunteers for the 85% calculation. Document everything clearly because if you ever face an examination, the burden of proof is on your organization to demonstrate compliance.

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This is exactly what we needed to hear! Our VFW has been pretty casual about tracking volunteer hours - we just had people sign in when they showed up. I didn't realize setup and breakdown time counted toward the 85% threshold. We've been potentially shorting ourselves on documentation that could keep us exempt. The point about "volunteers" getting compensation is eye-opening too. Our regular bingo caller gets free dinner every week - I wonder if that disqualifies him from counting toward our volunteer percentage? We should probably review our practices before our next board meeting. Thanks for the practical advice on separate sign-in sheets. That seems like such a simple change that could make a huge difference if we ever get audited.

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Great discussion everyone! As a newcomer here, I'm dealing with similar issues at our local DAV chapter. We've been running monthly meat raffles and quarterly Vegas nights, and I'm trying to figure out if we need to file Form 990-T for any of this. Reading through all your comments, it sounds like I need to get serious about documentation. We've been pretty informal - just having the same volunteers show up without really tracking hours or separating activities. The fragmentation rule that CyberNinja mentioned is news to me - I thought we could just lump everything together as "fundraising activities." One question: if we have a mix of paid bartender service during our Vegas nights (for liability reasons), but everything else is volunteers, does that automatically disqualify us from the volunteer labor exception for that entire event? Or can we separate out just the gaming portions that are run by volunteers? Also wondering if anyone has experience with whether the "members and guests only" restriction actually provides any protection, or if it's really just about the volunteer threshold as several of you have indicated.

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