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Sofia Morales

Are country club expenses tax deductible for members if the club is a non-profit?

I recently quit my job at a pretty fancy country club that operates as a non-profit organization (which I always found kinda weird for a place charging $30k+ initiation fees, but whatever). Something I've been wondering about since I left - I constantly heard members talking about how they were writing off their expensive dinners, golf outings, and events as "business expenses" on their taxes. These weren't small amounts either. We're talking $300+ dinners, $200 rounds of golf, annual fees around $15k, etc. Members would openly joke about how everything was a "business meeting" even when it was clearly just friends hanging out or family dinners. Since the club is registered as a non-profit and tax-exempt itself, does that somehow make these expenses more legitimately deductible for the members? Or are these people potentially setting themselves up for audit issues? I'm just genuinely curious about how this works from a tax perspective since I heard it mentioned so often while working there.

Dmitry Popov

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The club's tax status as a non-profit doesn't impact the deductibility of expenses for individual members. The IRS has pretty specific rules about business entertainment deductions that changed substantially after the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. Prior to 2018, business owners could deduct 50% of entertainment expenses if they were directly related to business. However, the TCJA eliminated most entertainment deductions, including country club dues and memberships. Currently, business meals can still be 50% deductible (temporarily increased to 100% for 2021-2022 during COVID), but only if they're legitimate business discussions with clients or prospects - not just friends or family. If members are routinely deducting personal meals and golf outings by labeling everything as "business," they're definitely risking audit flags, especially with high-dollar amounts. The fact that the club is a non-profit is completely irrelevant to the members' ability to claim deductions.

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Ava Garcia

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What about if the club membership itself is under a business name and not personal? My dad's small business pays for his country club membership and he always told me it was totally legal because the company pays for it, not him personally.

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Dmitry Popov

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Even when a business pays for the membership, country club dues are specifically identified as non-deductible expenses in the tax code. A business can pay for these perks, but they can't deduct them as business expenses - they're considered personal entertainment benefits. For business meals at the club, the business might be able to deduct 50% of those costs if they meet the strict criteria: the expense must be ordinary and necessary, not lavish, and the business owner must be present with a current or potential business contact with a genuine business discussion taking place. Simply having a membership through a business doesn't make all activities there automatically deductible.

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Miguel Silva

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Does it actually review each specific expense or just give general guidelines? Like if I have 20 different receipts from my country club, will it tell me which specific ones might qualify as business and which don't?

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Zainab Ismail

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I'm skeptical it could really know which meals actually involved business discussions versus just friends hanging out. Wouldn't you still have to manually identify which ones were legitimate business meetings?

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Yara Nassar

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Former IRS auditor here. Country club members claiming personal expenses as business deductions is actually one of our common audit triggers, especially for small business owners and self-employed individuals. Here's what you should know: 1. The club's non-profit status is completely irrelevant to whether members can deduct their expenses. 2. Club dues and membership fees are NEVER deductible, period. 3. Business meals can be 50% deductible only if they're directly related to business and properly documented. 4. You need contemporaneous documentation of WHO you met with, WHAT business was discussed, and WHY it was necessary. 5. If you're claiming club expenses as business deductions regularly, you're practically begging for an audit, especially if the amounts are significant. The people joking about everything being a "business meeting" are playing with fire. We specifically look for patterns of entertainment being claimed as business expenses.

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Paolo Ricci

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What if I'm genuinely meeting clients there though? I'm a financial advisor and about 30% of my clients are also members of my club. We often discuss their portfolios over lunch or golf. That seems legitimately business-related, no?

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The meals where you're discussing client portfolios might qualify for the 50% meal deduction if you're following all documentation requirements. Keep detailed records of which clients you met with and what specific business was discussed. The golf itself is still not deductible even if you discuss business during the round - that falls under entertainment. Being a financial advisor actually puts you in a higher scrutiny category since the IRS knows your industry commonly uses club settings for client meetings. If audited, you'll need to prove these weren't primarily social interactions with business briefly mentioned. Consider having meeting agendas and taking notes about what was discussed to strengthen your position.

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Amina Toure

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My question is about special events. If my company rents out a room at a non-profit country club for a legit corporate function (like an annual sales meeting or client appreciation event), is that considered a business expense? Or does it fall under the "no country club deductions" rule?

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I've deducted client events at country clubs before. What matters is the purpose and nature of the event, not where it's held. A legitimate business event with a business purpose should be deductible regardless of venue.

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Former country club accountant here - the "non-profit" designation for country clubs is typically under 501(c)(7) as a social club, which is different from charitable non-profits. These clubs don't pay federal income tax on membership dues and fees from members, but they do pay tax on income from non-members and investment income. This status has zero effect on whether members can deduct their expenses. The tax implications only apply to the club itself, not the members. The confusion probably comes from people mixing up different types of non-profits and thinking all non-profit activities are somehow tax deductible.

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Ava Garcia

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That makes so much sense! I always wondered how these super expensive, exclusive clubs qualify as "non-profits" when they literally exist to provide luxury services to wealthy members. Thanks for explaining the difference.

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Ella Lewis

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As someone who works in tax preparation, I see this misconception constantly. People think that because they're spending money at a "non-profit" organization, it somehow makes their personal expenses deductible. That's absolutely not how it works. The key thing to understand is that business expense deductions are based on the PURPOSE of the expense, not the tax status of where you spend the money. You could spend money at a for-profit restaurant for a legitimate business meal and deduct 50% of it, or you could spend money at a non-profit country club for a personal dinner and deduct 0% of it. What really concerns me about your post is hearing members "openly joke" about calling everything a business meeting. The IRS has sophisticated data analysis tools that flag patterns of entertainment expenses, especially when they're consistently high amounts at the same venues. These members might think they're being clever, but they're actually creating a paper trail that screams "audit me." The documentation requirements for business meals are very specific - you need to record who attended, what business was discussed, when and where it occurred, and the business relationship of the people involved. "Had dinner with Bob" isn't going to cut it if the IRS comes knocking.

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This is exactly what I was wondering about! The way these members were talking made it seem like they thought the club's non-profit status was some kind of magic shield that made everything deductible. Your explanation about it being based on the PURPOSE of the expense rather than where you spend it makes perfect sense. What really stuck with me was how casual they were about it - like they genuinely believed they had found some loophole. Some would even say things like "well, the club doesn't pay taxes so neither should we on expenses here." The disconnect between their confidence and what you're describing as actual tax law is pretty alarming. I'm curious though - do you think most of these people just don't know the rules, or are they knowingly pushing boundaries hoping they won't get caught? The amounts were substantial enough that audit risk seems like it would be a real concern.

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