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Ashley Adams

Should I take depreciation bonus or section 179 deduction for last-minute 2024 RV purchase for rental business?

I'm trying to make a smart tax decision for my new rental business venture. I've found this perfect RV that I plan to use exclusively as a short-term rental property starting in 2025. The seller is giving me payment options - I can either pay the full amount now in December 2024 or split it with half now and half in January 2025. Honestly, paying half now and half in January would be much easier for my cash flow, but I'm worried about how that might impact potential tax benefits. I'm specifically wondering about section 179 deductions or the depreciation bonus options. If I pay 100% for the RV in 2024 but don't actually generate any rental income until 2025 when I start operating, would I still qualify for these tax benefits? Or would I be reducing/losing eligibility for section 179 or depreciation bonus by purchasing it in a different tax year than when I start generating income? I'm planning to hire a CPA to help with my new rental business, but I haven't found one yet and need to make this payment decision pretty quickly. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

The timing of your RV purchase and payment can definitely impact your tax benefits, but there are a few important considerations here. First, to claim Section 179 or bonus depreciation, you need to place the asset "in service" in your business. This doesn't necessarily mean you need to generate income right away, but the property must be available for use in your business. If you purchase in December 2024 but don't make it available for rental until 2025, you technically haven't placed it in service in 2024. For Section 179, the deduction is limited to your business income, so with no rental income in 2024, you might not benefit from taking it that year anyway. Any unused Section 179 deduction would carry forward to future years. Bonus depreciation allows you to deduct a percentage of the cost without the business income limitation. For 2024, the bonus depreciation percentage is 80%, while for 2025 it drops to 60%. Given your situation, splitting the payments might align better with when you'll actually place the RV in service, which appears to be 2025.

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Aaron Lee

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Thanks for the helpful info! I'm confused about the "in service" requirement though. If I buy it in December 2024 and start listing it on Airbnb that same month, but don't actually get any bookings until January 2025, would it count as "in service" for 2024? Also, doesn't the business income limitation for Section 179 apply to all business income, not just from the RV? I have other income from my day job if that matters.

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The "in service" requirement means the property is ready and available for its intended business use, not necessarily that you've generated income from it. So if you purchase in December 2024 and immediately list it for rent, even without bookings, it could be considered placed in service in 2024. The business income limitation for Section 179 applies to business income only, not your personal income from your day job. If this is your only business activity in 2024 and you have no business income, you wouldn't benefit from Section 179 in 2024, but the deduction would carry forward until you do have business income.

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Noah Torres

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Samantha Hall

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Ryan Young

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Noah Torres

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Ryan Young

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Sophia Clark

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I'm a short-term rental host who had to figure this out last year. My accountant recommended I use regular MACRS depreciation instead of Section 179 or bonus depreciation because of the 5-year recapture period. If you sell or convert the RV to personal use within 5 years, you'll have to recapture (pay back) the depreciation benefit you received. With regular depreciation over the longer recovery period (typically 5 years for RVs), you protect yourself better if your business plans change. Something to consider along with the timing question.

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That's a great point about recapture! Does the recapture amount differ depending on whether you use regular depreciation vs bonus or section 179? I'm worried about committing to this business long-term and don't want a huge tax bill if I decide to sell the RV in a year or two.

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Sophia Clark

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The recapture amount would indeed be different. With Section 179 or bonus depreciation, you're taking a much larger deduction upfront, so if you sell or convert to personal use early, you'll have a larger amount to recapture. With regular MACRS depreciation spread over 5 years, you're taking smaller deductions each year, so your potential recapture amount at any point would be lower. If you're uncertain about the long-term viability of your rental business, regular depreciation gives you more flexibility with less tax risk if your plans change.

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Madison Allen

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Don't forget about the business use requirement! For Section 179 and bonus depreciation, the asset must be used more than 50% for business. You mentioned 100% business use, so you're good, but make sure you keep detailed records proving that. If the IRS audits you and finds personal use, they can disallow your deductions. Also, have you calculated the actual dollar difference between the two depreciation options? With bonus depreciation dropping from 80% in 2024 to 60% in 2025, there could be a significant advantage to placing it in service this year if possible.

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Joshua Wood

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How do you prove 100% business use for an RV? Do you need to keep a logbook or something? I'm concerned because even if I'm not personally using it, there will be days when it's not rented out. Does that still count as 100% business use?

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Ava Thompson

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Yes, maintaining detailed records is crucial! For 100% business use documentation, you should keep rental agreements, booking confirmations, listing screenshots, and a log showing when the RV is available for rent versus any personal use. Days when it's not rented but still listed and available for rental still count as business use - it's the availability that matters, not constant occupancy. The IRS looks at your intent and actual use patterns. If you're exclusively marketing it as a rental and never using it personally, that supports your 100% business use claim. Just make sure you have documentation showing it was genuinely available for rental during any vacant periods, not just sitting unused while you decide whether to take a personal trip! @Madison Allen makes a great point about calculating the actual dollar impact of the bonus depreciation percentage drop. With a 20% difference between 2024 and 2025, that could be substantial depending on your RV s'cost.

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NebulaNinja

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This is a complex situation that really highlights why timing matters so much with tax planning! Based on what everyone has shared, it sounds like you have a few key decisions to make: 1. **Payment timing vs. "placed in service" timing** - As others mentioned, what really matters is when you place the RV in service (available for business use), not necessarily when you pay for it. If you can purchase and list it in December 2024, you could potentially benefit from the higher 80% bonus depreciation rate. 2. **Consider your overall tax situation** - Since you mentioned having a day job, you'll want to think about whether taking a large depreciation deduction in 2024 actually benefits you tax-wise, or if spreading it out might be better. 3. **Don't forget about the recapture risk** - @Sophia Clark raised an excellent point about the 5-year recapture period. If there's any chance you might exit this business or sell the RV within 5 years, regular MACRS depreciation could be safer than the aggressive front-loaded options. Given that you need to decide quickly and haven't found a CPA yet, I'd suggest either using one of the tools mentioned (taxr.ai for analysis or Claimyr to speak directly with the IRS) or at minimum, run some quick calculations on the actual dollar differences between your options. The cash flow benefit of splitting payments might outweigh the tax benefits, especially if you're not certain about the long-term viability of the rental business. Sometimes the bird in the hand (better cash flow) is worth more than the potential tax savings!

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Ravi Patel

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This is really helpful analysis! I'm actually in a similar situation with some equipment for my consulting business, and the recapture risk point is something I hadn't fully considered. @NebulaNinja, when you mention running calculations on the dollar differences, do you have a simple way to estimate this? I'm trying to figure out if the 20% difference in bonus depreciation rates (80% vs 60%) is worth the cash flow strain of paying everything upfront in 2024. Also, does anyone know if the business income limitation for Section 179 applies differently if you have W-2 income from a day job versus self-employment income? The tax code seems to treat these differently in some cases.

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