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Should I charge sales tax for hobby artwork sales? Filing question for occasional painting sales

I'm hoping someone can clear up some confusion I have about taxes for occasional art sales. My husband creates wooden sculptures as a hobby and sometimes people at our community center want to buy them. Last year he sold about 5 pieces and collected sales tax on them, totaling around $580 in sales. He just submitted the sales tax payment to our state. What I'm struggling to figure out is: - Is he actually required to collect sales tax on these hobby sales when it's not a real business? - If he does need to charge sales tax, should we still report this as hobby income on our taxes or does collecting sales tax mean it has to be reported as self-employment income? I've tried looking this up online but keep getting contradictory information. Some sites say hobby sales are exempt from sales tax while others say all sales require it. I just want to make sure we're doing this correctly before we file our taxes. Thanks for any help!

Freya Thomsen

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The answer depends on your state's specific rules, but generally sales tax is based on the transaction itself, not whether you consider the activity a business or hobby. Most states require sales tax collection on tangible goods regardless of how you classify the income. For income tax purposes, how you report it depends on intent and profitability. If it's truly a hobby (no intention of making a profit, irregular sales, no business structure), report it as "Other Income" on your 1040 and itemize any expenses on Schedule A subject to the 2% AGI limitation. If it's more like a business (regular sales, profit motive, business-like operations), then it should be reported on Schedule C as self-employment income. The collection of sales tax doesn't automatically make it a business for income tax purposes - these are separate issues. You can be required to collect sales tax while still treating it as hobby income for federal income tax purposes.

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Omar Fawaz

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Thanks for explaining this! I'm in a similar situation with my pottery. For the sales tax part, does that mean I need to register with my state to get a sales tax permit even if I only sell maybe 2-3 pieces a year at a community fair? Seems like overkill for such small amounts.

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Freya Thomsen

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Yes, technically most states require you to register for a sales tax permit regardless of how few items you sell. That said, many states have minimum thresholds before registration is required - some might be based on dollar amount (like $1,000 in annual sales) or number of transactions. Check your specific state's department of revenue website for hobby seller exemptions. Some states have occasional or casual sale exemptions that might apply to your situation if you're only selling 2-3 items annually. These exemptions are designed precisely to avoid burdening very small sellers with sales tax compliance.

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Chloe Martin

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Diego Rojas

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I'm skeptical of tax tools that aren't from established companies. How accurate was the info compared to what you'd get from an actual accountant? I've been burned before by online tax advice.

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Chloe Martin

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StarSeeker

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Zara Ahmed

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StarSeeker

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Zara Ahmed

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Luca Esposito

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One thing to consider that nobody's mentioned yet - even if you're treating it as hobby income for federal purposes, collecting and remitting sales tax creates a paper trail. Make sure your hobby vs. business classification is consistent across all your documentation. I've seen people get flagged for audit when they file sales tax as a business but report the income as a hobby on federal returns, or vice versa. The IRS looks at nine factors to determine if something is a hobby or business - including whether you conduct the activity in a businesslike manner, your expertise, time and effort invested, expectation of asset appreciation, success in similar activities, history of income/losses, occasional profits, your financial status, and elements of personal pleasure.

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Nia Thompson

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Does registering for a sales tax permit automatically make the IRS consider it a business? My state requires permits for even occasional sales at craft fairs, but I definitely don't make a profit on my quilting hobby.

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Luca Esposito

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No, registering for a sales tax permit doesn't automatically make the IRS classify your activity as a business. These are separate systems with different purposes. State sales tax departments are concerned with collecting tax on transactions regardless of profitability, while the IRS is looking at your intent and the nature of the activity. You can have a sales tax permit and still legitimately classify your quilting as a hobby for federal income tax purposes if you meet the hobby criteria (not primarily profit-motivated, occasional sales, etc.). Just be prepared to explain the distinction if asked. Many crafters are in exactly your situation - required to collect sales tax by their state but properly reporting as hobby income federally.

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One trick I learned from an accountant friend - keep a separate log for your hobby sales that clearly documents each sale with dates, amounts, and context (like "church fundraiser" or "neighbor request"). This helps establish the occasional/non-commercial nature of the sales if questioned. Also track your expenses separately from any business activities. When my wife started selling her paintings occasionally, we created a simple spreadsheet showing that she was actually spending more on supplies than she was making from sales, which helps support the hobby classification. The key is showing you're not primarily motivated by profit.

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This is good advice. Would you recommend keeping physical receipts too or is a digital log enough? I'm trying to minimize paperwork for my spouse's occasional pottery sales.

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Digital logs are generally fine for hobby activities, but I'd recommend keeping digital copies of receipts (photos work great) rather than just logging amounts. The IRS accepts digital records as long as they're clear and legible. For pottery supplies especially, having the actual receipt shows what you bought and when - paint, clay, glazes, kiln costs, etc. This creates a stronger paper trail than just writing "supplies - $45" in a spreadsheet. Plus if you ever get questioned about the hobby vs business classification, detailed expense records showing you're spending more than you're earning really helps your case.

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