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Landon Flounder

Do I need Schedule C for selling handmade crafts as a hobby on eBay and Facebook Marketplace?

Hi everyone, I'm hoping to start selling some of my handmade paintings and crafts on eBay and Facebook Marketplace. I'm expecting to make around $1,300 or so per year from these sales. This is just a hobby for me - I love creating art in my spare time and thought I might make a little extra cash from it. I'm confused about the tax situation though. Do I need to file a Schedule C for this hobby income? My understanding is that I don't have to since it's just a hobby, and I should just report it as "other income" on my 1040. Is that right? The materials I use for my crafts (paints, canvas, fabric, etc.) add up, but I've heard I can't deduct those costs if I'm listing this as a hobby rather than a business. So I guess I'll end up paying tax on the entire amount I sell things for? One more thing - if eBay or PayPal sends me 1099 forms, does that change anything? I might get 1099s from both since my eBay sales will process through PayPal. Do I still just report it as other income or does getting 1099s mean I have to treat it differently? Thanks for any advice you can offer!

Callum Savage

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You've got the basics right, but there are some important nuances to understand about hobby income versus business income. If you're truly operating as a hobby (not trying to make a profit), you would report the income on Schedule 1, Line 8 as "Other Income." However, the IRS looks at several factors to determine if your activity is a hobby or a business - including whether you depend on the income, operate in a businesslike manner, or expect to make a profit. Unfortunately, hobby expenses are no longer deductible as of the 2018 tax law changes. This means you'll pay tax on the gross amount you receive, not your net profit after materials. Getting 1099 forms doesn't automatically make your activity a business, but it does mean the IRS is being informed of your income. You'll need to report the full amount shown on those forms. If you receive 1099s from both eBay and PayPal for the same transactions, you'll need to be careful not to double-report the income. Given the cost of materials for handmade items, you might actually benefit from treating this as a business (Schedule C) so you can deduct those expenses, even if it means a bit more paperwork.

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Ally Tailer

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If they decide to file a Schedule C, will that mean they have to pay self-employment tax on top of regular income tax? I'm in a similar situation and wondering if the deductions for materials would offset the additional SE tax. Also, what's the threshold for when the IRS might question if something is truly a hobby vs a business?

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Callum Savage

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Yes, filing Schedule C means you'll be subject to self-employment tax (15.3%) on your net profit. Whether this makes sense financially depends on your profit margin. If your materials and other legitimate business expenses are significant compared to your revenue, the deductions could offset the SE tax burden. The IRS doesn't have a specific income threshold for hobby vs. business. Instead, they look at the "9 factors test" which includes: operating in a businesslike manner, expertise, time and effort invested, expectation of asset appreciation, success in similar activities, history of income/losses, amount of profits, your financial status, and elements of personal pleasure. Generally, they want to see that you're trying to make a profit over time - showing a profit in 3 out of 5 consecutive years is often considered a safe harbor.

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Malia Ponder

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I think everyone is overlooking a key detail here - PayPal and eBay may not even send 1099s depending on how many transactions you have and the total amount. For 2023 taxes (filing in 2024), they only send 1099-Ks if you exceed $20,000 AND 200 transactions. Starting with 2024 taxes (filing in 2025), the threshold was supposed to drop to $600 with no transaction minimum, but there have been delays implementing this. Worth checking the current status before worrying too much about 1099s. Regardless of whether you get a 1099 though, you're still legally required to report the income!

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Kyle Wallace

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That $600 reporting threshold has been a moving target for years now! Wasn't it supposed to kick in for 2022 taxes originally, then got delayed to 2023, and now maybe 2024? Hard to keep track of what's actually happening with it.

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Malia Ponder

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You're absolutely right about the confusion! It was initially scheduled to drop to $600 for the 2022 tax year, then got delayed to 2023, and was delayed again to 2024. But with all the political back-and-forth, it wouldn't surprise me if there are more changes before it's actually implemented. The constant delays are frustrating for planning purposes, but the key thing to remember is that these thresholds only affect reporting requirements (whether you get a 1099-K), not your obligation to report the income. You're required to report all income regardless of whether you receive a tax form for it.

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Ryder Ross

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I've been selling my handmade jewelry as a "hobby" for years and ended up getting audited because I was inconsistent in how I reported it. Here's what I learned the hard way: If you're making things with the intent to sell them, even occasionally, and you're trying to make money (not just recover material costs), the IRS will likely consider it a business. The "hobby vs business" distinction matters MUCH more after the 2018 tax law changes eliminated hobby expense deductions. Now if it's a hobby, you pay tax on ALL income with NO deductions for materials. My advice: if you're regularly creating items specifically to sell them (vs. occasionally selling things you made for fun), just treat it as a business from the start. Keep good records, deduct legitimate expenses, and pay the self-employment tax. It's actually cheaper in most cases than paying income tax on the gross sales amount with no deductions.

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Did you have to pay penalties when you got audited? I'm nervous because I've been selling paintings on Facebook for 2 years and just reporting it as miscellaneous income without any deductions.

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Ryder Ross

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Yes, I had to pay both back taxes and penalties. The penalties weren't huge since the IRS determined I wasn't deliberately trying to evade taxes - just confused about the proper filing method. But the real cost was having to go back through two years of records to document all my business expenses that I should have been deducting all along. For your painting sales, if you're creating them with the intent to sell and trying to make a profit (even if small), you should consider filing Schedule C going forward. The good news is you can always start doing it right for the current tax year - you don't necessarily need to amend prior returns unless you're audited or have other reasons to correct previous filings. Just make sure to keep better records going forward!

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Great question! The hobby vs. business distinction can be really tricky, especially for craft sales. Based on what you've described - creating handmade items specifically to sell on eBay and Facebook Marketplace - you might actually benefit from treating this as a business even at $1,300/year. Here's why: if you report it as hobby income, you'll pay tax on the full $1,300 with zero deductions for your materials (paints, canvas, fabric, etc.). But if you file Schedule C, you can deduct all those material costs plus other legitimate business expenses like packaging supplies, listing fees, or even a portion of your internet if you use it for business communications. The self-employment tax on Schedule C might seem scary, but it's only 15.3% of your NET profit (after expenses). If your materials cost $600-800, you'd only pay SE tax on $500-700 instead of income tax on the full $1,300. Regarding 1099s - you're required to report the income whether you get forms or not. If you do get them from both eBay and PayPal, just make sure not to double-count the same transactions. My suggestion: keep detailed records of all your craft-related expenses and consider Schedule C. The paperwork is manageable and you'll likely save money compared to the hobby route.

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