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Had this same issue! If you previously had an IP PIN but can't get a new one in time, you have a few options: 1. File an extension using Form 4868 - this gives you until October to file (but you still need to pay any taxes owed by the original deadline) 2. File by paper - slower processing but allows you to include an explanation about the IP PIN situation 3. Contact the Taxpayer Advocate Service if you're facing financial hardship due to refund delays Just don't skip the PIN if your account is flagged as needing one - guaranteed rejection!
Doesn't filing by paper take forever to process though? I heard the IRS has like a 10-month backlog on paper returns rn
Yes, paper filing is significantly slower these days. Current processing times are around 6-8 weeks minimum for paper returns, but can definitely stretch longer during peak filing season. It's definitely not ideal if you're expecting a refund you need quickly. The extension is usually the better option as it gives you time to properly retrieve your IP PIN while still protecting you from late filing penalties. Just remember that an extension to file is not an extension to pay, so estimate and pay any taxes due by the regular deadline.
Just posting to save someone else the headache I went through... If you enroll in the IP PIN program, you're in it FOR LIFE. They don't make this super clear! Once you get a PIN, you'll need one EVERY year going forward. Ask me how I know š
Have you checked your mail at the old address? When I moved last year, the IRS sent a letter requiring identity verification to my old place even though I had filed a change of address with USPS. My refund was stuck in limbo for months until I figured this out. Apparently IRS mail doesn't always get forwarded properly!
That's a good point - I did file a mail forwarding request with USPS but maybe the IRS notice didn't get forwarded correctly. I'm friendly with the new tenants so I could ask them to check if anything came for me. Any idea what these verification notices usually look like so I can tell them what to look for? And if they don't find anything, is there a way to request a copy of whatever notice was sent?
The identity verification letters are usually pretty obvious - they come in IRS envelopes and typically have "Action Required" or something similar printed on them. They're letter 5071C, 5747C, or 5447C usually. If your new tenants can't find it, you can request a copy of the notice by calling the IRS or checking your online account. If it's an identity verification issue, you might be able to complete the verification online through the Identity Verification Service without the original letter. Just go to the IRS website and search for ID verify. You'll need info from previous tax returns, so have that handy!
This happened to me last year and it took FOREVER to resolve. After 8 months of waiting, I finally got through to someone who told me my return had been flagged for a "random review" and was just sitting in a backlog. The crazy thing is, nothing was wrong with my return at all! The IRS is still dealing with massive backlogs from COVID. If you're desperate for the money, you might consider contacting your congressional representative's office. Their constituent services can sometimes inquire with the IRS on your behalf and get things moving. That's what finally worked for me after months of frustration.
Have you looked into filing Schedule C with your taxes? When I was a contractor, I was able to deduct a ton of expenses related to my work - part of my internet bill, phone, computer depreciation, even a portion of rent for my home office space. The self-employment taxes still suck (that 15.3% hits hard), but deductions can really bring down your taxable income. Don't forget to look into the Qualified Business Income deduction too - it lets you deduct 20% of your net profit in most cases.
Thanks for this! Would I just list "temp worker" as my business on the Schedule C? And for the home office, do I need to have a dedicated room or can it be like a desk in my bedroom? I'm worried about getting audited if I claim too much.
You can list "Telecommunications Contractor" or something similar as your business. For home office, the IRS prefers a dedicated space, but it doesn't have to be an entire room - a dedicated desk area that's used regularly and exclusively for work can qualify. Just measure that specific area for your deduction calculation. Don't worry too much about an audit if you're claiming legitimate expenses. Just keep good records of your expenses and be reasonable with your deductions. For example, don't claim 100% of your internet if you also use it for personal stuff - 30-50% is more reasonable depending on how much you use it for work.
Regardless of the contractor situation, make sure you're setting aside money for next year's taxes! This was my biggest mistake when I first started getting 1099 income. You should be making quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid penalties.
Have you considered doing an 83(b) election for future RSU grants? It lets you pay ordinary income tax on the grant value upfront rather than the vesting value. That might help avoid this situation in future years if your company's stock keeps growing.
Thanks for the suggestion, but isn't the 83(b) election only available for restricted stock, not RSUs? From what I've read, it doesn't apply to standard RSUs because there's no actual ownership until vesting. But I'd love to be wrong about this if it could help with future grants!
You're absolutely right, and I apologize for the confusion. The 83(b) election typically doesn't apply to standard RSUs because, as you correctly noted, there's no actual ownership until vesting. It's more applicable for restricted stock awards (RSAs) where you have immediate ownership with restrictions. For standard RSUs, tax planning is more about timing your sales after vesting to manage capital gains. Some companies offer programs where they automatically sell enough shares at vesting to cover tax obligations, which might be worth looking into for future grants.
Oof, I went through almost this exact situation last year. What tax software are you using? I found that TurboTax didn't handle my RSUs very well, but H&R Block's premium version actually had a much better equity compensation section.
Heather Tyson
Don't forget to calculate if you're actually eligible for the full EIP amounts. If your income was over certain thresholds, the payment started phasing out. For single filers: - First payment: Phased out starting at $75,000 AGI - Second payment: Same threshold - Third payment: Had a faster phase-out rate If you had kids or dependents, that would have increased your payment amounts too. Make sure you're claiming the right amount when you file amended returns.
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Atticus Domingo
ā¢Thanks for mentioning this! My AGI was definitely under the threshold (around $27,500 that year), so I should have gotten the full amount. I don't have any dependents though. When filing the amended return, do I need to provide any proof that I didn't receive the payments?
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Heather Tyson
ā¢You usually don't need to provide direct proof that you didn't receive the payments. The IRS can check their records to see if payments were issued to you. However, it helps to include a brief statement explaining that you never received the payments and are now claiming the Recovery Rebate Credit you were eligible for. If the IRS believes they already sent you the payments, they might reject your amended return. In that case, you would need to request a payment trace to determine what happened to those payments. But start with the amended return first since their records will likely show no payments were made.
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Raul Neal
I actually had issues with my EIP going to a closed bank account. If that happened to you, the bank would have rejected it and the IRS should have mailed you a paper check instead. Did you move during the pandemic? That could explain why you never got it.
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Jenna Sloan
ā¢This happened to me too! The IRS tried to deposit to my old bank account, it bounced, then they mailed a check to my old address. By the time I figured it all out, it was too late to request a trace. I had to claim it on my taxes.
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Atticus Domingo
ā¢I did move in late 2020, but I thought I updated my address with the IRS when I filed my 2020 taxes. Maybe the second or third payment got sent to my old place? The mail forwarding probably would have expired by then too. I'm definitely going to check out both the tax amendment option and trying to call the IRS directly to see what happened. This whole process is so frustrating!
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