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For what it's worth, I started at a Big 4 firm, moved to a regional firm, then went to the IRS, and now I teach tax courses at a community college. Most fulfilling path was actually teaching! Better hours than public accounting, more interesting than IRS work, and I still do tax prep on the side during season to keep my skills sharp. Don't limit yourself to just the two options.
What qualifications did you need to teach tax courses? I'm approaching retirement from the IRS and teaching sounds appealing, but I only have an EA, not a master's degree.
For community college positions, real-world experience is often valued as much as academic credentials. My EA plus 15+ years of experience was sufficient for teaching certificate courses. For associate degree programs, they sometimes want a master's, but many colleges have exceptions for industry professionals. For university positions teaching undergraduate courses, you typically need at least a master's degree. For graduate tax courses, they generally require a JD, LLM, or PhD.
Just my 2 cents - I've been preparin taxes for 20 yrs and never got any fancy certifications beyond my EA. Still make great money and have tons of loyal clients. Don't get caught up in credentials, focus on building relationships and doin good work. Most taxpayers dont care about your letters, they care if you save them money and keep them outta trouble!
This is honestly terrible advice. The tax landscape is completely different now than 20 years ago. Try getting hired anywhere decent without at least an EA, preferably a CPA. The competition is fierce.
I think both perspectives have merit here. @Luca Russo is right that client relationships and quality work are fundamental - I ve'seen plenty of credentialed preparers who lack practical skills. But @Nia Wilson also makes a valid point about today s competitive'market. The sweet spot might be starting with solid credentials EA minimum, (CPA preferred to get) your foot in the door, then focusing on building the relationship and practical skills that keep clients coming back. The credentials get you hired, but the soft skills and expertise keep you successful long-term. For someone just starting out like Isabella, I d say'get the EA at minimum - it s much'more achievable than CPA right out of school and specifically focused on tax work.
The IRS Refund Hotline is 800-829-1954, which is specifically for refund inquiries. However, it's mostly automated just like the Where's My Refund tool. For actual human assistance, use 800-829-1040. Current average wait times are 73 minutes according to the IRS's February 2024 service report. If you filed electronically, they won't discuss your return until exactly 21 days after acceptance. If you mailed your return, they won't discuss it until precisely 6 weeks after mailing. Have you verified if either of those timeframes applies to your situation?
Is it really worth spending hours on hold just to hear them say "keep waiting"? I wonder if there's a way to calculate the value of your time versus the potential benefit of the call. At what point does paying for a service like the one mentioned earlier make financial sense?
As someone who went through this exact situation last year as a newlywed, I completely understand your frustration! Here's what worked for me: First, definitely try the Where's My Refund tool and check your account transcript online - sometimes the issue is something simple that resolves automatically without needing to call. For actually reaching a human, I had success calling 800-829-1040 at exactly 7:00 AM EST when they open. Have your Social Security number, filing status, and exact refund amount ready. The key is persistence - don't get discouraged by busy signals. Since you mentioned this is your first year filing as married, double-check that you both didn't accidentally claim the same dependents or credits. That's a common newlywed mistake that can delay processing. If you've been waiting more than 21 days since e-filing (or 6 weeks if you mailed), and the online tools aren't giving you answers, then calling is definitely worth it. The agents can see much more detail about what's happening with your return than what shows up in the automated systems. One last tip: if you do get through and they say everything looks normal but just needs more time, ask them to put a note on your account about the inquiry. This can sometimes help expedite things. Good luck - the waiting is always the hardest part!
In our case, the trust paid the taxes before distributing to beneficiaries. Our accountant said it depends on whether the trust is a "simple" or "complex" trust for tax purposes. For us it was complex since it had the option to accumulate income. Ur trust might be different tho. The accountant said the $200k was technically a capital gain to the trust since it was essentially selling its right to the property. They said the trust's basis in the property was the important part in calculating how much of that $200k was actually taxable gain.
That's interesting - our family had almost the exact opposite experience. Our trust was deemed "simple" and passed all tax liability to us as beneficiaries. We each had to report our portion on our personal returns. Makes me wonder if the trusts were actually different or if we just got different tax advice? Tax pros - which approach is correct?
This is a really complex situation that highlights why trust taxation can be so tricky! Based on what you've described, there are several key factors that will determine the tax treatment: 1. **Trust Classification**: Whether your trust is "simple" (must distribute all income annually) or "complex" (can accumulate income) will largely determine who pays the tax. 2. **Nature of the Settlement**: Since this was malpractice insurance compensating for a lost property interest, it's likely treated as a capital transaction rather than ordinary income. The tax calculation would compare the settlement amount to your trust's basis in the lost 21% property interest. 3. **Trust Document Language**: The specific provisions in your trust document about how settlements and capital transactions are allocated between income and principal will be crucial. Given the $200,000 amount and complexity involved, I'd strongly recommend getting professional guidance from a CPA who specializes in trust taxation before making any distributions. They can review your trust document, determine the trust's basis in the lost property, and calculate the proper tax treatment. The good news is that if it's determined to be a recovery of basis (rather than a gain above basis), the tax impact could be minimal. But you definitely want to get this right before distributing the funds!
You might consider implementing a quarterly dividend strategy alongside a reasonable base salary. This is what I do - I pay myself a consistent reasonable base that covers my actual work (based on market rates for my position), then distribute profits as needed through distributions. Remember that while S-Corp distributions aren't subject to self-employment tax, they ARE subject to income tax. And the IRS is very clear that you can't take distributions without a reasonable salary first.
That seems like a smart approach. So in practice, how do you handle this? Do you start with a somewhat conservative base salary and then do quarterly reviews to determine distributions? And do you ever adjust the base salary mid-year if business is significantly better or worse than expected?
I start with a base salary that would be reasonable to hire someone to replace me in my role - I actually got quotes from headhunters for similar positions to document this amount. I review quarterly but rarely change the base unless my duties significantly change. For distributions, I first ensure all business cash flow needs are covered (including reserves for taxes and future expenses), then distribute a portion of excess profits quarterly. In exceptionally good quarters, I sometimes pay myself a W-2 bonus rather than taking it all as distributions - this looks better for maintaining that reasonable salary requirement while still giving me flexibility. The key is having a documented methodology that shows you're not artificially suppressing salary to avoid payroll taxes.
The uncertainty you're facing is totally understandable - that's a massive potential revenue jump! Here's what I'd recommend based on going through something similar: Start with a conservative approach for Q1. Set your salary based on a blend of last year's performance plus modest growth expectations - maybe bump from $65k to around $75-80k to start. This keeps your fixed commitment manageable while acknowledging some growth. Then implement quarterly reviews. As you hit Q2 and Q3, if the revenue is materializing as projected, you can either: 1. Increase your base salary mid-year (requires payroll adjustments) 2. Pay yourself W-2 bonuses quarterly to catch up 3. Take the excess as distributions (though remember you need that reasonable salary first) The IRS doesn't expect you to predict the future perfectly, but they do expect you to make reasonable adjustments as circumstances change. Document everything - why you set the initial salary, what factors you considered for increases, and how you determined what's "reasonable" for your role and industry. Most importantly, focus on what you'd need to pay someone else to do your job, not on percentages of profit. Your duties might not change much even if revenue quadruples, so your salary shouldn't necessarily scale directly with profits.
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Quick question - does anyone know if stock in foreign companies purchased through regular US brokerages (like Schwab or Fidelity) trigger Form 5471 requirements? I own shares of some Canadian and European companies through my brokerage account but never considered filing anything special.
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Isabella Martin
โขPublicly traded stocks purchased through US brokerages generally don't require Form 5471 filing, even if they're foreign companies. Form 5471 is typically for direct ownership in foreign corporations, not publicly traded shares. Your brokerage should provide a 1099 that reports all your dividend income, including from foreign sources. You might need to file Form 8938 if your total foreign assets exceed certain thresholds, but that's different from Form 5471. The brokerages handle most of the reporting requirements for publicly traded foreign stocks.
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StarSailor
Based on what you've described, you're likely correct that you don't need to file Form 5471. With less than 10% ownership in each company and no officer/director role, you wouldn't meet the typical filing requirements under any of the 5 categories. However, I'd be extra careful about the "coordinated group" issue that others have mentioned. The fact that you're part of an 80-person investment group could potentially trigger constructive ownership rules if the IRS determines you're acting in coordination. The key factors they look at are: shared investment vehicles, common decision-making processes, voting agreements, or family/business relationships between investors. Since you mentioned it's a "mix of US citizens and non-US persons," only the US persons would count toward the 50% threshold for constructive ownership. You might want to document how your investment was structured - did everyone invest independently, or was there any kind of organizing entity or shared agreements? For future distributions, you'll report them as foreign dividends on Schedule B and may need to pay taxes on them even if they were already subject to foreign withholding taxes. You can often claim a foreign tax credit to avoid double taxation. Given the severe penalties ($10,000+ per form as mentioned above), it might be worth getting a definitive answer from a tax professional or the IRS directly, especially with the complexity of having 80 investors involved.
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