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Natasha Volkov

Shipping item from Italy to USA - What VAT or tax ID do they need?

I just bought something on eBay Italy for about $65. Now the seller is asking me for a VAT or tax ID number before they'll ship it to me in the US. I'm super confused because I'm just a regular person buying something online, not a business. What VAT and/or tax ID am I supposed to give them? I don't think I have one as an individual? Is there some documentation I can send them to show they can ship to the US without needing these numbers from me? I know it's technically their responsibility to figure out the shipping requirements, but they've asked me twice already for this tax ID/VAT info and I'm getting frustrated. I just want my item shipped! Can anyone explain what they're asking for and what I should tell them? Or point me to some official documentation I can share with them about shipping from Italy to USA?

Javier Torres

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They're asking for this because in the EU, VAT (Value Added Tax) is typically charged on goods. But for exports outside the EU, items can be shipped VAT-exempt. The seller is trying to document that you're in the US so they don't have to charge you VAT. As an individual in the US, you don't have a VAT number. What you can tell them is that you're a private individual in the United States, not a business, and therefore you don't have a VAT ID. US citizens don't have VAT numbers. You could provide them with your mailing address and perhaps a copy of your shipping label as proof of US residency. Sometimes sellers are just unfamiliar with international shipping procedures, especially smaller shops.

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Thanks for explaining! So I should just tell them I'm a private individual in the US and don't have/need a VAT number? Is there maybe some official link I could send them that explains this? They seem pretty insistent.

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Javier Torres

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Yes, exactly. Tell them you're a private US individual and don't have a VAT number. You can direct them to the European Commission's VAT information portal (https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat_en) which explains that exports to non-EU countries are VAT-exempt. If they're still confused, they might be mixing up requirements. Some countries require an EIN or Tax ID for customs purposes on the commercial invoice, but for a low-value personal purchase like yours, this isn't required. The USPS international shipping guidelines or US Customs website might help them understand the requirements for shipments under $800.

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Emma Wilson

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QuantumLeap

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Does it work for other countries too? I buy stuff from Japan sometimes and keep running into weird tax issues.

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I'm skeptical about these kinds of services. How much does it cost? And couldn't you just Google this information for free?

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Emma Wilson

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Malik Johnson

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Ravi Sharma

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Freya Larsen

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Freya Larsen

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Omar Hassan

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The seller might be confusing personal imports with business imports. For context, I've been importing stuff from Europe for years. Here's what you need to know: 1) For items under $800 (de minimis value), you don't need a formal entry or customs bond as a US individual 2) The seller needs to mark it as "export sale" on their documents to avoid charging Italian VAT 3) Some sellers are just unfamiliar with proper procedures Just tell them you're a US individual importing for personal use, not for commercial resale. You could also suggest they talk to their local post office about the proper way to mark exports to the US.

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Chloe Taylor

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I had a similar issue ordering from Germany. Would this be different for more expensive items? I'm looking at buying something that's around $1,200.

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Omar Hassan

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For items over $800, the process is different. You'll need to file a formal customs entry, which typically requires a customs bond. Most individuals use a customs broker for this (often the shipping company like FedEx or UPS can handle it). You might need to provide your Social Security Number for items over $800, but that's for US customs purposes, not for the German seller's VAT exemption. The seller still doesn't need your tax ID to ship without VAT - they just need proof of export and your non-EU shipping address. Just be aware you'll pay import duties on the value above $800, usually around 2-3% depending on the type of item, plus a broker fee if you use one. The seller should still ship VAT-free though.

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ShadowHunter

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has anyone mentioned how Italian tax forms work? my cousin is Italian and he said sometimes for higher value exports they are required to keep proof that the customer is non EU or they get in trouble with their tax auth. if u tell them ur a US individual and dont have VAT that should be enough... maybe send copies of ur ID if ur comfortable with that? but be careful ofc

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Diego Ramirez

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Don't send copies of your ID! That's not necessary and could lead to identity theft. The shipping address in the US should be sufficient proof for their records.

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Just share your EIN with them. All US citizens have an EIN for tax purposes and that's what they're asking for.

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Javier Torres

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This is incorrect information. An EIN (Employer Identification Number) is for businesses, not individuals. Regular US citizens do NOT have EINs unless they own a business. What the seller is asking for is a VAT ID, which US individuals don't have. Please don't spread misinformation that could cause confusion.

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Vera Visnjic

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I work in international trade compliance and see this confusion all the time. The seller is likely required by Italian tax authorities to document that they're exporting outside the EU to justify the VAT exemption on their end. Here's what you should tell them: "I am a private individual residing in the United States. US individuals do not have VAT registration numbers as the US does not have a VAT system. Per EU VAT Directive 2006/112/EC, exports to non-EU countries are zero-rated for VAT purposes when you can demonstrate the goods have left the EU." Your US shipping address serves as proof of export destination. If they're still hesitant, suggest they contact their local tax office (Agenzia delle Entrate) for clarification on export procedures to the US. Most sellers just need reassurance they're following the rules correctly. The $65 value is well under any threshold that would require additional documentation from you as the importer.

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