Do U.S. citizens need to pay taxes while living abroad permanently?
I'm feeling a bit stressed about my tax situation. I just turned 18 and have dual citizenship (U.S. and Italian). My family relocated to Rome last year after living in the States, but I'm planning to stay in Italy for college and probably work here or somewhere else in Europe afterwards. I have zero plans to move back to America. The thing is, I've been hearing that U.S. citizens still have to file taxes even when living in another country? This seems crazy to me since I won't be earning any money in the U.S. or using any services there. I'm completely confused about how this works since I don't even have a home state anymore. Do I actually need to file U.S. taxes once I start working here in Italy? And if so, how exactly do I do that when I have no U.S. address? Would really appreciate any help because I'm clueless about this whole international tax situation!
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Kaitlyn Otto
Yes, U.S. citizens are required to file tax returns regardless of where they live in the world. This is because the U.S. taxes based on citizenship, not just residency like most other countries. But don't panic! There are provisions to help prevent double taxation. First, there's the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (FEIE) which allows you to exclude a certain amount of foreign earnings from U.S. taxation (about $120,000 for 2025). There's also the Foreign Tax Credit which gives you credit for taxes paid to other countries. For your address situation, you can use your foreign address on tax forms. Many expats use their last U.S. address for state tax purposes if needed, but since you'll be filing as an adult for the first time, you might be able to avoid state taxes entirely depending on your specific situation. I'd recommend looking into filing requirements including FBAR (Foreign Bank Account Report) which you need to file if your foreign accounts total over $10,000 at any point during the year.
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Axel Far
•Wait, so even if I make below that foreign income exclusion amount, I still have to FILE taxes every year? What happens if I just... don't? I mean, how would they even know? Sorry if that's a dumb question but I'm genuinely curious.
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Kaitlyn Otto
•Yes, you still need to file even if you make below the exclusion amount. It's how you claim the exclusion in the first place. The filing requirement exists regardless of whether you'll owe any tax. As for not filing, that's not something I'd recommend. The penalties for willful non-compliance can be severe. The U.S. has information sharing agreements with many foreign financial institutions through FATCA. This means banks around the world report American account holders to the IRS. Additionally, not filing can cause problems with passport renewals, and potentially large penalties if you ever need to catch up on filings in the future.
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Jasmine Hernandez
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Luis Johnson
•Does it help with finding a U.S. tax preparer who understands international situations? That's been my biggest headache, finding someone who doesn't charge a fortune but understands expat taxes.
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Ellie Kim
•I'm skeptical - most tax software doesn't handle international situations well. Does it actually file for you or just give advice? And what about state taxes if you previously lived in a state with no income tax vs high income tax state?
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Jasmine Hernandez
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Luis Johnson
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Fiona Sand
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Mohammad Khaled
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Ellie Kim
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Fiona Sand
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Ellie Kim
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Alina Rosenthal
As someone who's lived abroad for 10+ years with US citizenship, my advice is to ABSOLUTELY stay compliant with your US tax filing requirements, even if you don't owe any taxes. Here's why: 1) You'll need to renew your US passport eventually 2) Clean tax record if you ever decide to move back 3) Avoid massive penalties that compound over time 4) Some foreign banks will close your account if they discover you're a non-compliant US citizen (thanks to FATCA) Just file every year even if you don't owe anything. It takes me about an hour once I gathered all my documents.
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Finnegan Gunn
•Do you use an accountant or file yourself? I'm trying to figure out if I need to shell out for professional help or if I can handle it myself with basic income from a foreign employer.
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Alina Rosenthal
•I used an accountant for the first two years to learn the ropes, then switched to doing it myself with tax software that handles expat situations. If your situation is straightforward (just foreign employment income, no investments or rental properties), you can absolutely do it yourself. The key forms you'll need to understand are Form 2555 for Foreign Earned Income Exclusion and Form 1116 for Foreign Tax Credits. Many tax software programs now handle these forms, though some do better than others with international situations.
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Miguel Harvey
One thing nobody mentioned yet is that you may still be required to file FBARs (FinCEN Form 114) if your foreign bank accounts exceed $10,000 in aggregate at any point during the year. This is separate from tax filing!
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Ashley Simian
•This! I got hit with a $10,000 penalty for not filing FBAR forms for years because I didn't know they existed. The penalties for this are way worse than regular tax filing penalties. Don't make my mistake.
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Morgan Washington
Hey Kristian! I was in almost the exact same situation a few years ago - dual US/German citizen who moved abroad at 18 and was completely overwhelmed by the tax requirements. Here's what I wish someone had told me from the start: Yes, you absolutely need to file US taxes every year regardless of where you live or work. But the good news is that with the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion and Foreign Tax Credits, you'll likely owe $0 in actual US taxes on your Italian income. A few practical tips for your situation: - You can use your Italian address on your US tax forms - Keep detailed records of your days outside the US to qualify for exclusions - Open a separate folder for all tax documents now - you'll thank yourself later - Consider getting professional help for your first filing to understand the process The filing deadline for expats is automatically extended to June 15th (with option to extend further to October 15th), so you have more time than US residents. Don't let the complexity scare you away from compliance - the penalties for not filing are much worse than just doing it properly from the start. Feel free to ask if you have specific questions about the process!
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Jay Lincoln
•This is such helpful advice! As someone who's just starting to navigate this whole system, I really appreciate the practical tips. Quick question about the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion - do you know if part-time work or internships while in college count toward that income threshold? I'm planning to do some freelance work and maybe internships while studying, but I'm not sure how to track all of that properly for tax purposes. Also, when you mention keeping records of days outside the US - is there a specific format the IRS wants, or just personal records showing I meet the physical presence test?
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