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Fatima Al-Rashid

S-Corp owner's draw before reasonable salary - tax mistake?

So I recently set up my S-Corp about 3 months ago and got my first 1099 payment on November 1st into my business account. Being eager to put some money to work, I transferred roughly 75% of that payment to my personal account on November 5th thinking I'd invest it rather than have it just sitting there doing nothing. Here's my concern - I haven't run payroll for my reasonable salary yet (planning to do that later this month), but I've been reading that you need to make sure your reasonable salary is paid BEFORE taking any distributions as an S-Corp owner. Does my November 5th transfer technically count as a distribution before salary? Did I mess this up? What if I immediately transfer that money back from my personal account to my business account to fix this? Would that work? Or am I overthinking this whole situation? Any advice would be super helpful since I'm still figuring out all these S-Corp rules!

This is a common concern for new S-Corp owners! The IRS doesn't explicitly state that reasonable salary must be paid before distributions, but they do expect S-Corp owners to take a reasonable salary before enjoying the tax benefits of distributions. Technically, yes, your transfer could be considered a distribution before salary. However, the IRS typically looks at the whole tax year, not individual transactions throughout the year. What matters most is that by December 31st, you've paid yourself a reasonable salary for the work you've performed during the year. Transferring the funds back to your business account is a good precautionary step. You can classify it as a shareholder loan repayment and then properly document when you run payroll. Make sure to keep clear records of these transactions and run your payroll before year-end. The most important thing is to establish a reasonable salary based on your role, industry standards, and business profitability, then maintain good documentation of all owner transactions.

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Thanks for the explanation! One thing I'm still confused about - if I transfer the money back to my business account, do I need to do anything special on my books? Like, is there some specific way to categorize this to make it clear it's not a distribution?

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You should classify the initial transfer as a "Shareholder Loan" rather than a distribution in your books. When you transfer the money back, record it as a "Loan Repayment from Shareholder." This keeps the transaction separate from salary or distribution categorizations. Many new S-Corp owners use shareholder loans as a temporary means of moving money before establishing their salary structure. Just make sure your accounting software or bookkeeper properly codes these transactions, and consider including a brief note documenting your intent.

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One option nobody's mentioned is to just redesignate that transfer retroactively. I'm also an S-Corp owner and my accountant told me I can document that initial transfer as a "shareholder advance" that will be counted toward my reasonable salary when I run payroll. Basically, you're pre-paying yourself, and when you run payroll, you just need to account for taxes and issue yourself a smaller net paycheck since you've already received most of the money. Just make sure your payroll service knows how to handle this correctly, and you'll need good documentation. I do this regularly - take money when I need it, then formalize it through payroll later.

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Is this really legit though? Don't you have to run actual payroll with proper tax withholdings at the time you take the money? I've been stressing about making sure everything is by-the-book with my new S-Corp.

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This is absolutely legitimate as long as you properly document and account for everything. When you run payroll, you'll calculate the full gross salary amount, withhold all required taxes, and then reduce the net check by the amount you already advanced yourself. For example, if your reasonable salary is $5,000 monthly and you already took $3,000 as an advance, when you run payroll, you'll still calculate taxes on the full $5,000, but the net check would only be around $2,000 (minus the taxes on the full amount). This ensures all proper employment taxes are paid on your full reasonable compensation. Just make sure your payroll system can handle this "adjustment" or "reimbursement" properly.

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My CPA told me this isn't actually as big a deal as people make it out to be for a new S-Corp with only a few months of operation. As long as you establish a reasonable salary before the end of the tax year and properly document everything, minor sequence mistakes in your first year typically won't trigger an audit. The reasonable compensation test is primarily looking at the entire tax year picture, not whether you took a specific distribution a few weeks before establishing payroll. Just don't make it a habit going forward!

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Agreed! I did something similar my first year and my accountant just had me document everything carefully. The important thing is the year-end picture looks right. S-Corps get in trouble when they take massive distributions and tiny salaries over the course of entire years, not when they make minor timing errors while learning the ropes.

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