S-Corp filed with salary on 1120S but no actual payroll was run - urgent!
I'm freaking out and need some quick advice. My CPA just prepared my S-Corp 1120S showing $18,500 in salary and about $14,300 in distributions, but I just realized I never actually ran payroll in 2022! The money marked as "salary" ($18,500) was transferred from my business account to a separate personal account, and then I moved it to my main personal checking. But I never processed it through a payroll system, didn't withhold anything, and didn't file any 940/941 forms. No W-2 was created either. All the payments were just made directly to me using my SSN - I didn't use the company's EIN for any of this. The good news is my 1120S hasn't been filed yet - it's sitting with my CPA waiting for my approval. But I need to make a decision ASAP. This is the first year my S-Corp had significant income, so I think my CPA just assumed I was handling payroll properly. What should I do? Can I just have him update the 1120S to show all distributions instead of salary? Will this trigger an audit? Is there a way to retroactively fix this payroll issue? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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Kaylee Cook
This is actually a common issue with new S-Corp owners. The requirement to pay yourself a "reasonable salary" trips up many small business owners. Here's what you need to know: The IRS requires S-Corp owners who work in their business to take a reasonable salary through payroll with proper tax withholdings. Taking only distributions can be a red flag because it avoids payroll taxes. Since your return hasn't been filed yet, you have options. You could amend the 1120S to show all distributions, but that could potentially raise audit concerns since S-Corp owners who work in their business should be taking salary. The cleaner approach would be to retroactively run payroll for 2022. Many payroll services allow for backdated payroll processing. You'll need to pay the employer portion of FICA (7.65%) plus any state taxes, and file the necessary quarterly forms (941s), annual forms (940, W-2/W-3), but this would align your actual activities with what your 1120S is reporting. I'd recommend discussing these options with your CPA immediately, as they'll know your specific situation best.
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Oliver Alexander
•Can you actually backdate payroll like that? Would there be penalties for filing the 940/941 forms late? I'm not the OP but I'm in a similar situation where I didn't run payroll for a few months and my accountant is telling me I'm screwed.
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Kaylee Cook
•Yes, you can definitely run backdated payroll. You'll likely face some penalties and interest for late filing of payroll tax returns, but it's generally much better than the alternative of not reporting proper salary at all. The late filing penalties are typically a percentage of the tax owed, often around 5% per month up to 25% maximum for late filing, plus interest on the unpaid amount. There can also be penalties specifically for late payroll tax deposits that vary based on how late they are.
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Lara Woods
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Adrian Hughes
•Did they actually handle the payroll filings for you or just tell you what to do? And approximately how much were the penalties in your case? Trying to figure out if I should try to fix a similar issue or just hope I don't get audited...
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Molly Chambers
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Lara Woods
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Molly Chambers
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Marcus Patterson
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Marcus Patterson
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Lydia Bailey
Former payroll specialist here. Just want to add that if you decide to run retroactive payroll, make sure you calculate and pay both the employer AND employee portions of FICA (Social Security and Medicare). Since you already distributed the money to yourself without withholding, you'll need to cover the employee portion out of pocket too. Also, be aware that late deposit penalties for payroll taxes are structured in tiers based on how late they are: - 2% if 1-5 days late - 5% if 6-15 days late - 10% if more than 16 days late - 15% if the IRS sends a notice Since you're well beyond these timeframes, expect the higher penalty rates. But honestly, paying these penalties is MUCH better than the alternative of having your S-Corp status potentially questioned in an audit.
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Morgan Washington
•Thank you for this breakdown on the penalties. Do you know if there's any kind of first-time abatement or forgiveness program I could qualify for since this is my first year with an S-Corp and I genuinely didn't understand the requirements?
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Lydia Bailey
•Yes, there actually is a First Time Abatement (FTA) program that you might qualify for! The IRS often waives penalties for first-time mistakes if you have a clean compliance history for the previous 3 years. You'll need to specifically request this abatement after you've filed everything and received the penalty notices. When requesting the abatement, explain that this was your first year operating as an S-Corp, you weren't aware of the payroll requirements, and you've taken steps to ensure compliance going forward. Many taxpayers don't know about this program, but it can save you a significant amount in penalties.
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Mateo Warren
Has anyone ever just amended their 1120S to show all distributions instead of salary, especially for a first year S-Corp? My CPA suggested this would be simpler than doing retroactive payroll, but now I'm worried after reading these comments.
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Sofia Price
•That's extremely risky advice from your CPA. S-Corps are required to pay "reasonable compensation" to shareholder-employees who provide services. Taking all distributions and no salary is one of the biggest red flags for an S-Corp audit. The IRS has specifically targeted this issue because it represents lost payroll tax revenue. If audited, they could reclassify your distributions as wages and hit you with back taxes, penalties, and interest. They could potentially even challenge your S-Corp election in extreme cases.
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Chloe Delgado
I went through this exact situation two years ago and can share what worked for me. The key is acting quickly since your 1120S hasn't been filed yet - that's actually a huge advantage. I ended up doing the retroactive payroll approach, and while there were penalties, it was much less painful than I expected. Here's what I learned: 1. Use a payroll service that can handle backdated processing (ADP, Paychex, etc.) - they're familiar with this situation 2. You'll need to pay both employer and employee portions of FICA since you already took the money 3. File Form 941 for each quarter you should have run payroll, even if some quarters were $0 4. The penalties were around 10-12% of the taxes owed in my case The most important thing is being transparent with the IRS about what happened. When I filed the late forms, I included a letter explaining this was my first year as an S-Corp and I misunderstood the requirements. Don't let your CPA talk you into showing all distributions - that's asking for audit trouble. The retroactive payroll route is more work upfront but gives you clean books and proper compliance going forward. Your future self will thank you for doing it right. Feel free to ask if you want more specifics about the process!
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Victoria Jones
•This is incredibly helpful, thank you for sharing your experience! I'm in a similar boat and your step-by-step breakdown gives me confidence that this is manageable. A couple of follow-up questions if you don't mind: Did you handle the retroactive payroll setup yourself or did your CPA coordinate with the payroll service? And when you say "transparent with the IRS" - did you proactively contact them or just include explanatory letters with your filings? I'm leaning toward the retroactive payroll approach after reading everyone's advice here, but I want to make sure I don't miss any steps that could make this worse.
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Dylan Campbell
•@f3afee8a0bac This is exactly the kind of detailed, real-world experience I was hoping to find! Your breakdown makes this seem much more manageable than I initially thought. I'm particularly interested in your point about being transparent with the IRS. Did you find that including the explanatory letter with your late 941 filings helped reduce penalties, or was that more for documentation purposes? Also, when you worked with the payroll service for backdated processing, did they handle all the quarterly filings automatically or did you need to coordinate that separately? I'm trying to figure out if I should set up the payroll service first and then work with my CPA, or vice versa. Really appreciate you taking the time to share your experience - it's giving me the confidence to move forward with fixing this properly rather than taking shortcuts that could cause bigger problems later.
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GalacticGuru
I'm dealing with a very similar situation and wanted to add my perspective after going through this recently. Like many others here, I initially panicked when I realized I had been taking distributions instead of running proper payroll for my S-Corp. After reading through all the advice here and doing my own research, I decided to go the retroactive payroll route. Here's what I found most helpful: 1. Don't delay - the longer you wait, the higher the penalties become 2. Most payroll services are familiar with this situation and can guide you through backdated processing 3. The IRS First Time Abatement program that Lydia mentioned is real and can significantly reduce penalties if you qualify 4. Having proper documentation from the start (even if late) is infinitely better than trying to explain away zero salary on an S-Corp return I ended up using a combination of the resources mentioned here - taxr.ai helped me understand exactly what was wrong with my initial approach and gave me a clear action plan, then I used that information to work with my CPA on the corrections. The total penalties were about 8% of the taxes owed, and I'm currently working on requesting First Time Abatement since this was my first year with payroll tax obligations. Morgan, definitely don't let your CPA file showing all distributions. The retroactive payroll approach is more work upfront but saves you from potential audit headaches down the road. Happy to share more details about my specific process if it would be helpful!
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Yuki Tanaka
•@d7c3e8d4fb52 Thank you for sharing your experience! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who recently went through this exact process. Your point about not delaying is well taken - I can see how the penalties would just keep accumulating. I'm curious about your experience with the First Time Abatement request. Did you file that immediately after submitting the backdated payroll forms, or did you wait until you received penalty notices from the IRS? I'm trying to plan out the timeline for getting this resolved properly. Also, when you mentioned taxr.ai gave you a clear action plan - did that include specific guidance on how to structure the explanatory letters that others have mentioned? I want to make sure I'm being appropriately transparent with the IRS without inadvertently making things worse. This community has been incredibly helpful in turning what felt like a disaster into a manageable (if expensive) learning experience. Really appreciate everyone sharing their real-world experiences rather than just theoretical advice!
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Malik Johnson
I went through this exact same situation last year and want to echo what others have said - don't panic, but definitely don't delay in fixing this properly. The retroactive payroll approach is absolutely the right way to go. I made the mistake of initially considering the "all distributions" route my CPA suggested, but after researching S-Corp audit triggers, I realized that would have been a huge red flag. Here's what worked for me: 1. Set up retroactive payroll immediately through a service like ADP or Paychex - they handle this situation regularly 2. Calculate both employer and employee FICA portions (you'll pay both since you already took the money) 3. File 941s for each quarter, even if some were zero 4. Include a brief, factual explanation letter with each filing stating this was your first S-Corp year and you misunderstood the requirements My total penalties ended up being about $1,200 on roughly $22k in salary that should have been processed through payroll. After requesting First Time Abatement (which took about 6 months to process), I got about 60% of the penalties waived. The peace of mind knowing my books are clean and compliant was worth every penny. Your CPA should understand that taking the extra time to do this right protects both of you from future audit issues. Don't let this stress you out too much - it's a very common first-year S-Corp mistake, and the IRS has processes in place to handle it. Just act quickly and do it properly!
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Andre Lefebvre
•This is such a relief to read - I'm in almost the exact same situation as the original poster and was honestly losing sleep over this. Your breakdown of the actual costs ($1,200 in penalties on $22k salary) really helps put this in perspective. I was quoted something similar by a payroll service, so it's good to know that's in the right ballpark. The First Time Abatement getting 60% waived is huge - I had no idea that program existed until reading this thread. Quick question: when you filed the explanatory letters with your 941s, did you send them as separate documents or include them directly on the forms? I want to make sure I'm documenting this properly but not overdoing it with the explanations. Thanks for taking the time to share the real numbers and timeline - it makes this feel much more manageable knowing others have successfully navigated this exact situation!
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