Help! Forgot to file Form 941 last quarter + filing late this quarter for S Corp
I'm in a bit of a panic over my S Corp situation. About 6 months ago I opened my S Corp and didn't earn any income during the first quarter, so I didn't bother filing a Form 941 (quarterly payroll tax return). Now I'm realizing I might've needed to file even with zero income? This current quarter has been different - I've done about $19k in sales but haven't yet paid myself any salary from the business. I'm the only employee of the company. If I'm supposed to have been filing these 941 forms regardless of whether I've taken a salary or had income, how bad is my situation? Am I looking at penalties or other issues with the IRS? Really worried I've messed this up badly and not sure how to fix it. Any advice would be super appreciated!
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Connor O'Neill
You've got a small issue to fix, but nothing catastrophic! As an S Corp owner, you should know that even with zero payroll, you're technically required to file Form 941 each quarter. For the quarter with no income: You should file a "zero return" - basically a Form 941 showing no wages paid. The IRS expects these returns even when you have no payroll activity. For this current quarter: Since you haven't actually paid yourself a salary yet, you haven't missed any tax deposits. However, remember that S Corp owners who provide services must take a "reasonable salary" - you can't just take distributions without salary to avoid payroll taxes. The IRS looks closely at this. Next steps: I'd recommend filing the missing Form 941 for last quarter (showing zeros) and keeping up with future filings even if there's no payroll. When you do start paying yourself, make sure to file on time and make the required tax deposits.
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LunarEclipse
•Thanks for this info. I'm curious - if OP didn't pay themselves during these quarters but plans to later in the year, is there a specific timeframe where the IRS expects to see a reasonable salary being taken? Could they just do a big salary payment in Q4?
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Connor O'Neill
•The IRS doesn't specify an exact timeline for when you must take your salary during the year, though consistent payments are generally better than one large payment. Technically, you could take a larger salary payment in Q4, but this approach has some drawbacks. First, it might look like you're trying to manipulate the timing of your compensation. Second, if you're making money throughout the year but not paying yourself until later, the IRS might question why you're deferring compensation while presumably taking draws or distributions. Remember that the core requirement is that your salary must be "reasonable" compared to the services you provide and what the market would pay for similar work.
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Yara Khalil
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Keisha Brown
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Paolo Esposito
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Keisha Brown
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Paolo Esposito
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Paolo Esposito
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FireflyDreams
If you haven't made any payroll payments, you can actually file Form 941 annually instead of quarterly by submitting Form 944. Might be easier for your situation until you start regular payroll.
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Zainab Ibrahim
•Wait, really? That would make things so much simpler for me. How do I switch to this annual filing instead of quarterly? Would that solve my missing quarter problem?
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FireflyDreams
•The IRS needs to approve your use of Form 944 before you can switch. You'll need to call them directly and request to file annually, or you can make the request in writing. This generally needs to be done before the tax year begins or during the first quarter. Unfortunately, it won't retroactively solve your missing quarter issue - you'll still need to file that missing 941. But going forward, once approved for Form 944, you'd only file one payroll tax return per year instead of four. This is specifically designed for small employers with very low tax liability, which sounds like your situation.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
Missed tax filings happen! I screwed this up when starting my S Corp too. Be sure to file that zero return ASAP. Quick tip - get a tax calendar app or set quarterly reminders so this doesn't happen again. The IRS has very specific due dates for S Corps that are easy to miss.
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Javier Morales
•Any specific tax calendar app recommendations? I keep missing these deadlines too.
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Malik Johnson
Don't panic - this is actually a pretty common mistake for new S Corp owners! Here's what you need to do: 1. **File the missing Q1 Form 941 immediately** - Yes, you needed to file even with zero wages. File it as a "zero return" showing no wages, no taxes withheld, etc. There may be a small penalty, but it's usually minimal for first-time filers. 2. **For your current quarter** - Since you haven't paid yourself yet, you technically don't have payroll to report. But here's the important part: as an S Corp owner providing services, you need to start taking a reasonable salary soon. The IRS doesn't like when S Corp owners avoid payroll taxes by only taking distributions. 3. **Going forward** - Set up quarterly reminders for Form 941 filings (due dates are April 30, July 31, October 31, and January 31). Even if you have zero payroll activity, you still need to file. The good news is that since this is your first offense and the amounts are relatively small, penalties should be manageable. Focus on getting compliant now rather than worrying about what's already happened. You've got this!
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Aisha Jackson
•This is really helpful advice! I'm in a similar situation with my new LLC that elected S Corp status. Quick question - when you say "reasonable salary," is there a rule of thumb for how much that should be? I've been taking small distributions but no salary yet, and I'm worried about getting flagged by the IRS. Should I be looking at industry standards or is there a percentage of profits that's considered safe?
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