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Elijah O'Reilly

New S-Corp Owner - How Often Should I Pay Myself a Salary?

I'm pretty new to this whole S-Corp thing and could use some advice. I converted my business from a sole proprietorship to an S-Corp back in March after running it on my own for several years. Besides myself, I have two employees who get regular paychecks through the payroll service I've been using for years, so their tax withholdings and all that stuff is taken care of. My problem is with paying myself. I never added myself as an employee with my payroll company and have just been paying myself the same way I did when I was a sole proprietor. I know that as an S-Corp owner/sole shareholder I need to take a "reasonable salary" and I've read about that 60/40 split between actual income and distributions. What I'm worried about now is the frequency of payments. I should have been paying myself a regular salary from the beginning, but it's already November and there's just one month left in the year. Can I just make one big salary payment to myself before December 31st to satisfy the requirements for this year? Or is that not how it works with S-Corps? Do I need to have been making regular payments throughout the year?

Amara Torres

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The IRS doesn't actually specify a required frequency for S-Corp owner salary payments, but they do look for patterns that suggest you're trying to avoid payroll taxes. Taking one lump sum salary at year-end isn't ideal, but it's better than no salary at all for your first partial year as an S-Corp. The key is making sure the amount represents a "reasonable salary" for your industry and the work you perform. The 60/40 split you mentioned is a common rule of thumb, but there's no hard rule - it depends on your specific business. Going forward in the new year, I'd recommend setting up regular salary payments (monthly or bi-weekly) to establish a clear pattern. This looks better if you're ever audited and makes your financial planning more consistent. Make sure you run this through proper payroll with all appropriate withholdings. And definitely get yourself set up with your payroll service ASAP to handle all the proper tax withholdings, quarterly filings, and year-end W-2 reporting!

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Thanks for the info! Quick question - for that one-time payment this year, do I need to do anything special with the quarterly payroll tax filings since I haven't been doing them for myself all year? Also, what happens if I just wait until January and start fresh with the new year?

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Amara Torres

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For that one-time payment, you'll need to make sure all appropriate taxes are withheld and deposited with the IRS. Since it's your first payroll for yourself, you'll file the appropriate quarterly forms for Q4. You'll need to account for Social Security, Medicare, federal income tax withholding, and any state/local taxes. Your payroll service can help set this up correctly. Waiting until January is risky. The IRS expects S-Corp owners to take a reasonable salary if the business is profitable. If you've been taking money out of the business this year but classified none of it as salary, you could face issues during an audit. They might reclassify your distributions as salary retroactively and assess penalties and interest on the unpaid payroll taxes.

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Sophia Russo

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Evelyn Xu

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Mason Kaczka

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Sophia Russo

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One thing nobody's mentioned - if you do a single large payment in December, make sure you have enough cash reserves to cover the employer portion of payroll taxes! That caught me off guard my first year. For a rough estimate, plan for about 7.65% employer portion of FICA (Social Security + Medicare) on top of what's withheld from your check. Plus, you'll have the employee portion withheld from your gross amount, so the actual cash you take home will be significantly less than the stated salary. Also, if your S-Corp is in a state with additional payroll taxes or requirements (like my state's Employment Training Tax), factor those in too. The last thing you want is cash flow issues because you didn't budget for all the payroll tax components of a large year-end payment.

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Grace Lee

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Do you have a recommendation for how to calculate all this? I'm trying to figure out the right salary amount that will let me take home enough to cover my personal bills while making sure all taxes are covered. Is there a calculator somewhere that can help with this?

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I'd recommend working backwards from the net amount you need to take home. Most payroll calculators can do this - you input the net amount you want and they'll calculate the gross amount needed. For a quick approximation, figure your federal income tax withholding based on your tax bracket (probably 22-24% for most small business owners), plus 7.65% for the employee portion of Social Security and Medicare. Then add state income tax if applicable. That gets you the approximate gross salary needed to achieve your desired take-home amount. Then add another 7.65% on top of that gross amount for the employer portion of FICA that your business will need to pay. Don't forget state unemployment insurance and any other local payroll taxes your state might require. Most payroll services have calculators that can do this more precisely, or your accountant can help run the numbers to make sure you're setting aside enough for all tax obligations.

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Mia Roberts

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Just want to add my experience as an S-Corp owner for 5+ years. What's worked for me is picking a consistent, reasonable monthly salary and sticking with it year-round, then taking quarterly distributions based on profitability. This makes everything cleaner for accounting and looks better to the IRS. For your situation this year, a one-time payment will work, but I'd strongly recommend getting on a regular schedule starting January. It's so much easier to manage cash flow when your owner compensation follows a predictable pattern. Also, the whole "reasonable salary" thing isn't as scary as it sounds. It doesn't mean you have to pay yourself market rate if your business can't afford it. It just means you can't take $1 in salary and $100K in distributions to avoid payroll taxes. As long as you're making a good faith effort to pay yourself fairly for your actual work, you'll be fine.

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Thanks for this real-world advice! Would you recommend I go ahead with the lump sum now in December or just start fresh in January? My business has been profitable this year and I've been taking money out, just not as official salary. Trying to figure out the less risky approach.

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Given that you've been taking money out and the business has been profitable, I'd definitely recommend doing the lump sum salary payment in December rather than waiting until January. Here's why: The IRS could potentially reclassify those distributions you've been taking as salary subject to payroll taxes if they determine you should have been paying yourself wages all along. By making a reasonable salary payment now, you're showing good faith effort to comply with S-Corp requirements. Calculate a reasonable annual salary based on what you'd pay someone else to do your job, then subtract any amounts you might have already run through payroll (sounds like zero in your case). Pay yourself that amount as salary in December with proper withholdings. Starting January, set up that regular monthly or bi-weekly schedule. The combination of addressing this year properly plus establishing a clean pattern going forward puts you in a much stronger position if there's ever any scrutiny. Your accountant can help you determine the right amount, but don't let perfect be the enemy of good - a documented, reasonable salary payment now is far better than nothing.

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Mia Green

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I'd definitely echo what others have said about making that lump sum payment in December rather than waiting. As someone who's dealt with similar timing issues, the IRS is generally more understanding about irregular payments in your first partial year as an S-Corp, especially if you document your reasoning well. One practical tip - when you calculate your reasonable salary amount, keep records of how you arrived at that number (industry research, comparable positions, etc.). I learned this the hard way when my accountant asked me to justify my salary decision later. Also, don't stress too much about the exact percentage split between salary and distributions. The key is that your salary reflects the value of services you actually perform for the business. If you're doing the work of a $60K employee in your industry, then that's a defensible salary regardless of what your total business income is. For next year, I'd suggest setting up automatic monthly salary payments through your payroll service. It makes everything so much cleaner and takes the guesswork out of compliance. You can always adjust the amount quarterly if your business performance changes significantly.

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Ev Luca

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This is really helpful advice, especially about keeping documentation! I'm curious - when you say "industry research," what specific sources did you use to justify your salary decision? I'm in a pretty niche field and I'm worried I won't be able to find good comparable data to support whatever amount I choose. Did you use Bureau of Labor Statistics data, or something else? Also, how detailed does that documentation need to be - just a one-page summary or something more comprehensive?

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