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Emily Thompson

Question about K-1 reporting of Section 1256 Contracts & Straddles on Form 6781

So I've been dabbling in volatility trading this year with SVIX during some market swings. Definitely not my finest hour - ended up with a $600 loss on a trade I made in August when I jumped the gun on some market movements. You win some, you lose some I guess! Just got my tax documents and I'm a bit confused. My 1099-B shows the $600 loss from the trade. But then I received a K-1 that shows section 1256 Contracts & Straddles loss of $245 (combined short-term and long-term) which apparently needs to go on form 6781. Took everything to a tax preparer and they combined both losses - the $600 from the 1099-B and the $245 from the K-1 section 1256 contracts, saying I have a total loss of $845 for tax purposes. I'm honestly confused because my actual bank account only shows I'm down $600 from these trades. Is the $245 Contracts/Straddles on the K-1 just a different way of reporting part of my $600 loss? Or can I legitimately claim the full $845 loss like my tax preparer is saying? Something doesn't add up and I want to make sure I'm filing correctly.

The confusion is understandable! What you're dealing with is how section 1256 contracts are reported for tax purposes versus your actual economic loss. The $245 loss shown on your K-1 under section 1256 Contracts & Straddles represents your portion of the partnership's trading activity in those specific types of contracts. This is separate from your personal trading loss of $600 shown on your 1099-B. These are two separate transactions from a tax perspective, even though they might feel connected to you. Form 6781 is specifically for reporting section 1256 contracts, which receive special tax treatment (60% long-term capital gain/loss and 40% short-term). The K-1 is showing your allocated share of the partnership's trading in these instruments. Your tax preparer is correct - you should report both losses separately: the $600 from your personal trading (1099-B) and the $245 from your K-1 (on Form 6781). The total $845 loss is your legitimate tax loss for the year.

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Daniela Rossi

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Wait I'm confused. If OP only lost $600 in their account, how can they claim $845 in losses? Where did the extra $245 come from if not from their account? Is this some kind of tax magic or am I missing something?

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The economic reality versus tax reporting can definitely seem disconnected sometimes. The $600 loss represents the direct trading loss from OP's personal account. The additional $245 loss on the K-1 represents OP's share of section 1256 contract losses from a partnership they're invested in. Think of it this way: when you invest in a partnership, the profits and losses flow through to you for tax purposes, even if you haven't physically received the money or seen it leave your account. The partnership conducted trading activity in section 1256 contracts that resulted in losses, and OP's proportional share of those losses is $245, which flows through to their personal tax return via the K-1.

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Ryan Kim

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Zoe Walker

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Elijah Brown

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Sounds interesting but I'm skeptical. How is this better than just asking my CPA? I've got several K-1s with section 1256 contracts and my accountant always seems confused by them.

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Ryan Kim

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Zoe Walker

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This sounds like BS honestly. There's no way to "skip the line" with the IRS. They're backed up for months and no service can magically get you through. I've been trying to reach them about my K-1 issues for weeks.

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It's not magic - they use technology to wait in the IRS phone queue for you. You provide your phone number, and when they reach an IRS agent, you get a call connecting you directly to that agent. You don't skip the line; they just wait in it so you don't have to. Yes, it absolutely connects you with real IRS agents. The IRS phone system is definitely overwhelmed, but calls do eventually get through - the problem is most people can't stay on hold for 3+ hours. Claimyr does that waiting for you and only calls when an actual agent is on the line. I was skeptical too until I was literally talking to an IRS representative about my section 1256 reporting questions.

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I feel compelled to correct my earlier skepticism about Claimyr. After my frustrated comment, I decided to try it anyway since I was desperate to resolve my K-1 section 1256 contract questions. To my complete surprise, it actually worked. After weeks of failed attempts calling the IRS myself, Claimyr got me connected to an IRS agent within about 3 hours. The agent confirmed exactly how to handle the separation between my direct trading losses and the partnership K-1 section 1256 contract amounts. The IRS agent explained that the K-1 amount represents my share of the partnership's section 1256 trading activity, which is properly reported on Form 6781, while my personal trading losses go on Schedule D. This confirmed exactly what others in this thread were saying. I've now filed my taxes correctly thanks to finally getting through to someone who could officially verify the proper treatment.

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Another thing to consider about section 1256 contracts - they get that special 60/40 tax treatment (60% long-term, 40% short-term capital gains treatment) regardless of how long you actually held them. That's why they're reported separately on Form 6781. So while your actual cash loss might be $600, the tax reporting can look different because of how these instruments are treated under tax law. This is actually a benefit in many cases, though in a loss situation it might not seem like it.

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Nick Kravitz

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What's the advantage of the 60/40 split for section 1256 contracts? Is it better to have losses treated this way? I'm trying to understand if I should be making different trading choices based on tax treatment.

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The main advantage of the 60/40 split comes when you have gains rather than losses. Since 60% of your gain is automatically treated as long-term (even if you held the contract for just a day), you get the benefit of lower long-term capital gains tax rates on most of your profit. For losses, the advantage is less clear. If you have other long-term capital gains to offset, having 60% of your losses classified as long-term can be helpful. But if you have short-term gains (like from regular stock trading), you might prefer to have more short-term losses to offset those. It really depends on your overall tax situation and other capital gains/losses for the year.

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Hannah White

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Has anyone here actually filed Form 6781 in TurboTax? I'm having a hard time figuring out where to enter my section 1256 contracts from my K-1. The software seems confused by it.

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Michael Green

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I used TurboTax last year with a similar situation. When entering K-1 information, there should be a specific section for Form 6781 entries. It's under the investment income section after you enter the basic K-1 info. Look for "Section 1256 contracts" specifically - it's easy to miss!

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Sofia Morales

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I went through something very similar last year with my K-1 and section 1256 contracts. The key thing to understand is that these are two completely separate tax reporting requirements, even though they might feel connected to your overall trading activity. Your personal $600 loss from SVIX trading gets reported on Schedule D as a regular capital loss. The $245 section 1256 contracts loss from your K-1 gets reported on Form 6781 and receives that special 60/40 treatment (60% long-term, 40% short-term) regardless of holding period. The reason your bank account only shows $600 down is because the K-1 loss represents your allocated share of the partnership's trading activity in these specialized contracts. You didn't directly lose that $245 from your account - it's a pass-through loss from the partnership that you're entitled to claim on your taxes. Your tax preparer is absolutely correct. Both losses are legitimate and should be reported separately. The total $845 loss is your proper tax loss for the year, even though your personal account impact was only $600.

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Chloe Taylor

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This is exactly the clarification I needed! I've been staring at my tax documents for hours trying to understand why the numbers didn't match my actual trading losses. The way you explained the pass-through nature of the K-1 losses really makes it click - I'm not claiming losses I didn't have, I'm claiming my share of the partnership's losses that I'm entitled to as an investor. Thank you for breaking this down so clearly!

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I had a very similar experience with section 1256 contracts from a K-1 last year and it completely confused me at first. The key insight that helped me was understanding that when you invest in a partnership or fund that trades these specialized instruments, you become entitled to your proportional share of their gains and losses for tax purposes, even if you never see the money move in and out of your personal account. Think of it like this: the partnership you invested in conducted separate trading activity in section 1256 contracts (like futures or certain options) that resulted in losses. Your $245 share of those losses flows through to your personal tax return via the K-1, completely independent of your direct trading activity that generated the $600 loss. The IRS treats these as two distinct sources of capital losses: your personal trading (Schedule D) and your share of partnership section 1256 contract activity (Form 6781). Your tax preparer is correct - you can legitimately claim both losses because they represent different economic activities, even though only one directly impacted your bank account. The section 1256 contracts also get special tax treatment with the 60/40 split, which is why they must be reported separately on Form 6781 rather than being combined with your regular capital gains and losses.

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Jenna Sloan

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This is such a helpful explanation! I'm dealing with a similar situation right now and was getting really frustrated trying to reconcile my actual account losses with what my tax preparer was telling me I could deduct. The way you broke down the partnership flow-through concept really clarifies why these are separate tax events. I had no idea that investing in a fund that trades section 1256 contracts would create this kind of pass-through tax reporting. It makes total sense now that my K-1 losses represent my share of the fund's trading activity, not additional losses from my personal account. Thanks for taking the time to explain this so thoroughly!

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Nia Davis

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I want to add another perspective that might help clarify this situation. As someone who works in tax preparation and sees these scenarios regularly, the confusion between economic loss and tax loss is extremely common with partnership investments. When you invest in a partnership or fund, you're essentially becoming a fractional owner of that entity's business activities. If that partnership trades section 1256 contracts (like certain index futures, forex contracts, or broad-based index options), any gains or losses from those trades get allocated to partners based on their ownership percentage. The $245 loss on your K-1 isn't "phantom" or artificial - it represents real trading losses that occurred within the partnership. You didn't see this money leave your personal account because the partnership conducted this trading with its own capital, but as a partner, you're entitled to your share of both the profits and losses for tax purposes. This is actually beneficial tax policy because it prevents double taxation and ensures that investment losses flow through to the actual economic owners. Your total tax loss of $845 accurately reflects your combined personal trading activity ($600) plus your proportional share of the partnership's section 1256 contract losses ($245). The key takeaway is that partnership taxation looks at economic substance rather than just cash flow in your personal account. Both losses are legitimate and should be reported as your tax preparer indicated.

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