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Quarterly Tax Payments - 1120 w or 1040ES for Single-Member LLC S-Corp?

I set up my photography business as a single member LLC last year, but elected to be taxed as an S-corporation to save on self-employment taxes. Now I'm completely confused about quarterly estimated tax payments. Do I use form 1120-W or 1040-ES for making these payments? I've been doing some research online and getting conflicting information. Some sources say I should use 1040-ES since the profits pass through to my personal return, but others mention 1120-W since I'm technically an S-corp. My accountant is on vacation for another week and I need to make a payment soon to avoid penalties. Any guidance would be really appreciated!

The form you need depends on what type of taxes you're paying. As a single-member LLC that elected S-corp status, you're dealing with two different tax situations. For your personal income taxes (from the S-corp distributions), you'll use Form 1040-ES. The S-corporation passes its income through to you as the shareholder, and you report this on your personal tax return. So your estimated personal tax payments are made using 1040-ES. The S-corporation itself doesn't typically pay federal income tax, but if your S-corp expects to owe $500 or more in taxes (usually for things like built-in gains tax or excess net passive income tax), then the corporation would use Form 1120-W to calculate its estimated tax requirement. However, most small S-corps don't have these special taxes.

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Thanks for the explanation! So to make sure I understand correctly - since I take distributions from my S-corp after paying myself a reasonable salary, I should be making personal estimated tax payments with 1040-ES to cover those distributions? Also, do I need to make estimated payments for the salary I pay myself, or is the withholding from my S-corp paychecks sufficient for that portion?

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Yes, you've got it right. You'll use 1040-ES for the estimated taxes on your distributions from the S-corp. Those distributions aren't subject to self-employment tax (which is one of the benefits of the S-corp election), but they are subject to income tax. For your salary, the withholding from your S-corp paychecks should cover those taxes if you've set up your W-4 correctly. Just make sure you're withholding enough from your payroll to cover the taxes on your salary portion. Your total tax liability will include both the taxes on your salary and on the distributions.

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How accurate was the advice compared to what you got from professionals? I'm in the same boat - SMLLC with S corp election for my digital marketing business. Did they tell you how much you should be withholding from your salary vs making as estimated payments?

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - don't forget your state estimated tax payments! I use 1040-ES for federal like everyone said, but my state has its own estimated payment vouchers. I forgot about those my first year with my S-corp and got hit with a penalty.

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What state are you in? Mine doesn't seem to have explicit S-corp payment vouchers and the state website is completely useless.

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I'm in Illinois. Each state handles this differently, which adds to the confusion. Illinois has form IL-1040-ES for individuals, which is what I use for the pass-through income from my S-corp. The key is understanding that for state purposes, you're typically making payments based on the income that passes through to your personal return. Check your state's department of revenue website for individual estimated tax vouchers - that's most likely what you'll need rather than a specific S-corp form.

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Don't forget you also need to pay yourself a reasonable salary as an S-corp owner!!! The IRS watches this closely. You can't just take all distributions and no salary to avoid payroll taxes. My friend tried that and got audited.

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Whats considered "reasonable" though? Is there a percentage or formula the IRS uses?

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The IRS doesn't have a specific percentage, but they expect you to pay yourself what you'd pay someone else to do your job. Generally, it should be based on market rates for your industry and role. For photography, you'd look at what other photographers in your area make as employees. A common rule of thumb is around 60% salary, 40% distributions, but it really depends on your specific situation. The IRS looks at factors like your time commitment, responsibilities, and what similar businesses pay. I'd suggest researching salary data for photographers in your area on sites like Glassdoor or PayScale to establish a defensible reasonable salary amount.

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Just went through this exact situation with my consulting LLC that elected S-corp status! After all the confusion, here's what I learned: You definitely need Form 1040-ES for your personal estimated tax payments. Since you're a single-member LLC with S-corp election, the business profits flow through to your personal return, so you make estimated payments as an individual. The 1120-W would only apply if your S-corporation itself owed taxes (like built-in gains tax), which is rare for small businesses like ours. One thing that helped me was calculating my estimated payments based on last year's tax liability using the safe harbor rule - if you pay 100% of last year's taxes (or 110% if your AGI was over $150K), you won't face penalties even if you owe more this year. Also make sure you're withholding enough from your S-corp salary for payroll taxes. The estimated payments with 1040-ES should cover the income tax on your distributions, but your salary withholding needs to handle that portion separately. Hope this helps while you wait for your accountant to return!

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