How are income taxes calculated for an S-corp shareholder-employee? Need help estimating quarterly payments
Hey folks, I recently converted my consulting business to an LLC that's taxed as an S-Corp, and I'm completely lost when it comes to figuring out my estimated quarterly tax payments. I'm trying to get a handle on what actually counts as my "income" for tax calculation purposes. Is my annual income considered to be the total of my W-2 salary (that I pay myself) plus the shareholder distributions I take? And when I'm figuring this out, should I be looking at amounts before or after I've already paid the payroll taxes? I've been using some online calculators but keep getting confused about what numbers to plug in. This is my first year with this business structure and I don't want to mess up and get hit with penalties. Any advice from those who've navigated this before would be super appreciated!
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Dylan Evans
The S-corp taxation can be confusing at first, but it gets easier! Let me break this down: Your "income" for tax purposes actually comes in two different forms that are taxed differently: Your W-2 wages are subject to both income tax AND payroll taxes (Social Security/Medicare). This is the salary you pay yourself as an employee of your S-corp. Your distributions as a shareholder are only subject to income tax, not payroll taxes. This is one of the big advantages of an S-corp! For quarterly estimated payments, you'll need to estimate your total tax liability - that's income tax on BOTH your salary and distributions, plus your share of payroll taxes on just the salary portion. When calculating, you'd use the amounts before payroll taxes are taken out. A good approach is to work with your accountant to complete Form 1120-S (your S-corp return) and Schedule K-1 from last year, then use those figures to estimate your payments for this year using Form 1040-ES.
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Sofia Gomez
•This is helpful but I'm still confused about the distributions part. If I take $80k in salary and say $40k in distributions, do I pay the same income tax rate on both? And are quarterly payments calculated differently than when I was just a sole proprietor?
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Dylan Evans
•You'll pay the same income tax rates on both your salary and distributions - they both flow through to your personal tax return as ordinary income. The key difference is that only your $80k salary gets hit with the 15.3% self-employment/payroll taxes, while your $40k in distributions avoids those taxes completely. Quarterly payments are calculated similarly to when you were a sole proprietor, but the underlying numbers are different. You'll still use Form 1040-ES, but because part of your income (the W-2 wages) will already have withholding taken out, your quarterly payments might be smaller than before. Just make sure that between your W-2 withholding and quarterly payments, you're covering at least 90% of current year tax or 100% of last year's tax (110% if your AGI was over $150,000) to avoid underpayment penalties.
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StormChaser
After struggling with this exact issue last year, I discovered a tool called taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) that was incredibly helpful for S-corp owners. I uploaded my previous tax documents and it helped me understand exactly what counted as taxable income and how to properly estimate my quarterly payments. The thing that really helped me was how it separated my W-2 income from my K-1 pass-through income and showed me the different tax implications of each. It also helped me optimize the balance between salary and distributions based on my specific situation.
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Dmitry Petrov
•Does this tool integrate with QuickBooks or other accounting software? I'm trying to streamline my process and hate having to manually enter data in multiple places.
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Ava Williams
•I'm interested but skeptical. How exactly does it calculate the "right" balance between salary and distributions? The IRS has that reasonable compensation requirement but doesn't give clear guidelines.
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StormChaser
•Yes, it does integrate with QuickBooks and several other popular accounting platforms. You can connect your accounts and it pulls the relevant financial data automatically, which saves a ton of time with manual data entry. It also keeps everything updated as your financials change throughout the year. For the salary vs. distributions balance, it analyzes industry data and your business financials to suggest a reasonable compensation range that would likely satisfy IRS requirements. It doesn't just give you a single number but shows you the tax implications of different salary levels within that reasonable range, so you can make an informed decision while staying compliant. It's not about gaming the system but finding an appropriate balance that reflects your actual role in the business.
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Ava Williams
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Miguel Castro
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Zainab Ibrahim
•How does this actually work? Do they just call for you or something? Seems weird that they could get through when nobody else can.
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Connor O'Neill
•Yeah right... the IRS won't even answer their own phones but somehow these people can magically get through? Sounds like a scam to me. I'll stick to waiting on hold for 3 hours like everyone else.
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Miguel Castro
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Connor O'Neill
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LunarEclipse
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - don't forget that as an S-corp owner, you need to run actual payroll (either yourself or through a service) for your W-2 wages. Those payroll taxes need to be deposited regularly (usually monthly or semi-weekly depending on your size) and are separate from your quarterly estimated income tax payments. I use Gusto for payroll and it automatically calculates and submits all the payroll taxes including the employer portion. Then I just make quarterly 1040-ES payments for the additional tax on my distributions.
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Yara Khalil
•Do you need to make estimated tax payments if you have a decent amount withheld from your W-2 salary? Like could I just increase my W-2 withholding and skip the quarterlies?
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LunarEclipse
•Yes, you absolutely can increase your W-2 withholding instead of making separate quarterly payments! This is actually a great strategy many S-corp owners use. You can use the higher withholding from your S-corp salary to cover your tax liability on both your salary AND distributions. Just complete a new W-4 form requesting additional withholding to cover the tax on your distributions. The IRS doesn't care whether the tax comes through withholding or estimated payments, as long as you're paying enough throughout the year to avoid underpayment penalties.
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Keisha Brown
What accounting software are ppl using for their S-corps? I'm trying to figure out how to track everything properly for taxes.
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Paolo Esposito
•I've been using QuickBooks Online for my S-corp for 3 years now. It's not perfect but it lets you categorize distributions vs owner draws properly and generates decent reports for tax time. Just make sure you set it up correctly from the beginning!
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