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Do S Corps have to pay estimated tax quarterly or is it only the individual owner?

I just started a business last year and had it set up as an S corporation for tax purposes. I'm trying to figure out the quarterly estimated tax situation. Since S corps are pass-through entities, I'm a bit confused about who pays the estimated taxes - the corporation itself or me as the individual owner? Do I need to make quarterly estimated tax payments (4/15, 6/15, 9/15, 1/15) for the S corp, or do I just make personal estimated tax payments based on my expected income from the business? This is my first year with an S corp structure and I want to make sure I'm handling the tax obligations correctly. Any insight would be greatly appreciated!

S corporations themselves generally don't pay federal income taxes, but there are some important distinctions to understand. The S corporation doesn't make federal estimated tax payments on business profits because those profits "pass through" to your personal tax return. As the owner, you'll need to make quarterly estimated tax payments on your individual return (Form 1040-ES) based on your anticipated income from the S corp and any other sources. However, if your S corporation has employees (including yourself as an employee-owner), the business is responsible for payroll taxes including Social Security, Medicare, and federal unemployment taxes. The S corp must make timely deposits for these employment taxes. Also, some states do impose entity-level taxes or fees on S corporations regardless of income, so check your state requirements.

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What if I'm the only employee of my S corp? Do I still need to run payroll and everything for myself? And how do I figure out how much to pay myself vs take as distributions?

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Yes, if you're the only employee, you still need to run payroll for yourself. The IRS requires S corporation owner-employees to take a "reasonable salary" before taking distributions. This means paying yourself market-rate wages for the work you do, running payroll, and withholding appropriate taxes. The reasonable salary vs. distributions question is important. Your salary should be comparable to what other businesses would pay for similar services in your industry and geographic area. There's no fixed formula, but you should be able to justify your salary if questioned. The remaining profits can be taken as distributions, which aren't subject to payroll taxes but still face income tax.

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Don't forget that S corps do have to file an annual tax return (Form 1120-S) even though they don't pay federal income tax! That Form 1120-S generates your Schedule K-1, which is what you use to report your share of the business income on your personal return. The 1120-S is due March 15th, which is earlier than personal returns.

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Is there any way to get an extension on the S corp filing? My accountant is always swamped during tax season and I'm worried we won't make the March 15 deadline.

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Yes, you can file Form 7004 to request an automatic 6-month extension for your S corporation return. This extends the deadline from March 15 to September 15. Remember though, this only extends the filing deadline, not any payment deadlines. Also, you need to file the extension request before the original due date (March 15) to avoid late filing penalties.

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Has anyone here had to deal with state estimated taxes for their S corp? I'm in California and the franchise tax board seems to have different rules than the IRS.

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California is the worst for S corps! You have to pay a minimum $800 franchise tax annually regardless of whether your business made a profit. And yes, unlike federal taxes, California requires the S corp itself to make estimated tax payments if you expect to owe more than $500 in tax. They're due April 15, June 15, September 15, and December 15.

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Great question! As others have mentioned, S corps are pass-through entities, so the corporation itself doesn't pay federal income tax on profits. However, you'll still need to make quarterly estimated tax payments on your personal return (Form 1040-ES) based on your expected income from the S corp. One thing to keep in mind is that if you're actively working in the business, you're required to pay yourself a reasonable salary through payroll. This salary is subject to payroll taxes (Social Security and Medicare), and you'll need to make regular payroll tax deposits. The remaining profits can then be distributed to you as distributions, which aren't subject to payroll taxes but are still taxable income on your personal return. Also don't forget that your S corp still needs to file Form 1120-S annually by March 15th, even though it doesn't pay federal income tax. This generates your Schedule K-1, which you'll need for your personal tax return. Since this is your first year with an S corp, I'd recommend working with a tax professional to make sure you're handling the reasonable salary requirement correctly - the IRS scrutinizes this closely.

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