QSBS: Can LLC to C-Corp conversion increase tax basis of founder stock when getting VC funding?
Hey everyone, I'm in a bit of a tax planning situation and could use some advice from those who've been there. My tech startup has been operating as an LLC for about 2 years, and we're finally getting serious interest from some VCs. They're looking at putting in around $3.5M in our next round. I've been reading about Qualified Small Business Stock (QSBS) and the potential tax benefits down the road. From what I understand, we'd need to convert to a C-Corp before taking the VC money to potentially qualify for the QSBS tax exemption in the future. But I'm confused about how this affects the tax basis of my founder shares. If we convert the LLC to a C-Corp right before the VC funding comes in, will that increase the tax basis of my founder stock? Does the timing of the conversion matter for QSBS purposes? I own about 65% of the company currently, and I'm trying to make sure I'm making smart decisions tax-wise before we move forward. Has anyone here gone through this process and have any insights to share? What other tax implications should I be thinking about with this conversion?
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Ethan Moore
The timing of your LLC to C-Corp conversion relative to the VC funding is actually crucial for QSBS purposes. Here's what you need to understand: When you convert from an LLC to a C-Corp, your tax basis in the founder shares will typically carry over from your basis in the LLC. The conversion itself doesn't automatically increase your basis. However, when the VC money comes in, the new investment will establish a higher valuation for the company, which affects future shares but not your existing basis. For QSBS qualification, remember that you need to meet several requirements: the company must be a C-Corporation when you acquire the shares, the corporation must have less than $50M in gross assets at the time of issuance, you must hold the shares for 5+ years, and the company must be engaged in a qualifying trade or business. If you're converting right before taking VC money, make sure you document everything clearly - the conversion date, the valuation at conversion, and the subsequent investment. This documentation will be critical if you ever want to claim the QSBS exclusion.
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Yuki Kobayashi
•Thanks for the explanation. I'm in a similar situation but confused about one thing - if the VC investment happens immediately after conversion (like within days), could the IRS argue that the gross assets include that incoming investment when determining if we're under the $50M threshold? I've heard conflicting things about this timing issue.
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Ethan Moore
•The IRS looks at the gross assets immediately before the stock issuance, so if you properly sequence the conversion first and then take the investment as a separate step, the incoming VC money shouldn't count toward the $50M limit for your founder shares. The key is to ensure there's a clear separation between these events - complete the conversion, issue your founder shares in the new C-Corp, document the asset value at that moment, and then complete the VC funding as a separate transaction. Even if they happen within days of each other, maintaining this sequence and proper documentation is what matters.
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Carmen Vega
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QuantumQuester
•How detailed do you have to get with your documentation? Like, do they need to see all your contracts or just the high-level stuff? Not sure if I'd be comfortable uploading everything.
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Andre Moreau
•I'm skeptical about AI tools for something this complex. Did you have a tax attorney verify their recommendations? QSBS rules are notoriously tricky and I'd be nervous about relying on automation for this kind of planning.
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Carmen Vega
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Andre Moreau
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Zoe Stavros
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Jamal Harris
•Wait, how does this actually work? I thought it was impossible to get through to the IRS these days. Is this some kind of priority service you have to pay extra for?
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Mei Chen
•Sounds too good to be true. I've spent literally hours on hold with the IRS and eventually gave up. There's no way something like this actually works - they probably just connect you to the same hold line everyone else uses.
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Zoe Stavros
•It's not a priority service or special access - they use technology to navigate the IRS phone systems and wait on hold for you. When a real agent picks up, you get a call back and are connected immediately. It's basically like having someone else do the waiting for you. They don't have any special relationship with the IRS - they're just solving the hold time problem. I was also skeptical, but when my phone rang and I was suddenly talking to an actual IRS agent who answered my specific questions about QSBS qualification timing, I became a believer. The agent I spoke with was knowledgeable about Section 1202 requirements, which really helped clarify the documentation I needed.
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Mei Chen
I have to eat my words about Claimyr. After seeing multiple recommendations, I tried it last week when I needed to speak with someone about the "original issuance" requirement for QSBS after converting my LLC. I got connected to an IRS agent in about 35 minutes (they said it would be 15-45 minutes) and got clear guidance on how they view the conversion timing. The agent confirmed that as long as I document the asset values properly at conversion and before the VC money comes in, I'll have good support for a future QSBS claim. Saved me days of uncertainty and probably a hefty consulting fee trying to get this information elsewhere.
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Liam Sullivan
One thing nobody has mentioned yet is the importance of the holding period for QSBS. When you convert from LLC to C-Corp, the clock for the 5-year holding period starts from the date of conversion/incorporation, NOT from when you originally started the LLC. I made this mistake thinking my 3 years as an LLC would count toward the 5-year QSBS holding requirement. Had to hold for 2 years longer than expected before selling some shares. Make sure you factor this into your exit timeline!
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Amara Okafor
•Does this apply even if it's a statutory conversion rather than a contribute-and-dissolve approach? I thought there might be different treatment for the holding period depending on how you structure the conversion.
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Liam Sullivan
•Yes, it applies regardless of whether it's a statutory conversion or a contribute-and-dissolve approach. The IRS views the C-Corporation shares as newly issued at the time of conversion. Unfortunately, there's no way to tack on your LLC holding period to the QSBS 5-year requirement. This is actually one reason some founders convert to C-Corps earlier than necessary - they want to start that 5-year clock even before they need the VC funding. The only exception would be if you were already a corporation (like an S-Corp) converting to a C-Corp, where different rules might apply.
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CosmicCommander
Has anyone here used a "blocker corporation" structure before conversion to help with the QSBS qualification? Our lawyers suggested this approach since we have some passive income that might otherwise disqualify us from the "active business" requirement.
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Giovanni Colombo
•We actually did this! Created a holding company structure where potentially disqualifying assets were placed in a separate entity. Make sure you're working with someone who really understands the "active business" requirements though, because it's not just about separating assets but about their purpose and use. Our tax attorney specifically helped design a structure that would stand up to scrutiny.
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