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Does anyone understand qualified small business stock (QSBS) exclusion for long-held company shares?

I've been working at my current company since the early 90s and purchased some company shares way back in 1994 when I first started. I've been holding onto them all this time, and now I'm thinking about finally selling. I've been hearing some buzz about something called qualified small business stock (QSBS) that might let me exclude the gains from taxes? The company was pretty small when I bought the shares - definitely had less than $50 million in capital at that time. I'm trying to figure out if I would qualify for this gain exclusion if I sell the stocks now, almost 30 years later. Also, I've been considering gifting some of these shares to my daughter who's starting grad school soon. Would that mess up any potential tax benefits? Would she still get the QSBS treatment if I transfer the shares to her instead of selling them myself? Any insights would be super helpful! The tax implications are making my head spin.

The QSBS exclusion is a fantastic tax benefit that's often overlooked! Based on what you've shared, you might be in a really good position. For QSBS qualification, you need to meet several requirements: - The stock must be from a C Corporation (not an S Corp or LLC) - You must have acquired the stock at original issuance (not on secondary market) - You must have held it for at least 5 years (which you clearly have!) - The company must have had gross assets under $50 million when you bought the shares - The company must have been an active business (not just investments) If you bought directly from the company in 1994, and they had less than $50M in assets then, you're likely eligible for up to 100% exclusion of your capital gains when you sell! As for gifting to your daughter - that's actually a smart move. QSBS benefits can transfer to gift recipients. She would "step into your shoes" regarding the holding period and acquisition date. So if you've met the 5-year holding requirement (which you have), she could sell immediately after receiving the gift and still get the exclusion.

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This is super helpful! Quick question though - does the company size NOW matter? Like what if the company grew to be huge since 1994? Also, is there a limit to how much gain can be excluded?

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The company's current size doesn't affect your QSBS qualification - what matters is the size when you purchased the shares in 1994. If they had less than $50 million in gross assets when you bought the stock, you're good regardless of how large they've grown since then. There is a cap on the exclusion amount. The maximum gain that can be excluded is the greater of $10 million or 10 times your original investment basis in the QSBS. For example, if you invested $200,000 originally, you could exclude up to $2 million in gains (10x your basis).

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Does this service actually look at the stock certificates? I have some old paper shares from a company acquisition and have no idea if they'd qualify for this QSBS thing.

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I'm skeptical about these online tax services. How do they handle complicated situations like mergers or if the company went through multiple funding rounds after you bought shares? My company got acquired twice since I got my shares.

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Yes, they can analyze your actual stock certificates. You just upload photos or scans of your certificates and any supporting documents. They have specific tools to help determine if your shares qualify, even if they're older paper certificates. They're surprisingly good with complicated situations like mergers and acquisitions or multiple funding rounds. In my case, my company had gone through two rounds of funding after I bought my shares and then got acquired. Their system tracked how each transaction affected my QSBS eligibility through all those changes. They explain how the "original issuance" requirement is maintained or lost through each transaction.

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Had to come back and say I actually tried https://taxr.ai after posting my skeptical comment. Uploaded my old stock purchase agreement and employment docs and wow - they confirmed I qualify for QSBS treatment on about 80% of my shares! The other 20% were from shares I bought on the secondary market which don't qualify. They showed exactly which sections of the tax code applied and gave me a detailed report I can share with my accountant. They even pointed out that some of my shares qualify for 75% exclusion while others qualify for 100% exclusion based on when I bought them (there were different QSBS rules in different years). I never would have figured that out on my own!

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Yeah right, there's no way this actually works. I've tried calling the IRS at least 15 times about my stock options and never got through. Why would they be able to get through when nobody else can?

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Ok I feel stupid for my skeptical comment above. I actually tried Claimyr this morning after posting that comment. Got connected to an IRS agent in about 40 minutes while I just went about my day. The agent confirmed that my QSBS questions needed to be handled by their specialized business tax department and transferred me right away. I finally got clear answers about how my stock options from my last employer would be treated under QSBS rules (turns out I'm eligible for partial exclusion). Would have taken me weeks to get this info otherwise. The IRS agent even emailed me the specific forms I need to use when I file. Definitely worth it for anyone dealing with complicated stock questions.

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Don't forget about state taxes too! QSBS is a federal exclusion, but not all states conform to the federal treatment. I live in California and they don't follow the federal QSBS rules - which was a nasty surprise when I sold my startup shares last year. Still had to pay CA state tax on my gains even though I qualified for federal QSBS exemption.

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Oh man, I hadn't even thought about state taxes! Do you know what states besides California don't follow the federal QSBS rules? I'm in Pennsylvania if that makes any difference.

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Pennsylvania actually does follow the federal QSBS rules, so you should be good on both state and federal taxes if you qualify. States that don't fully conform to federal QSBS rules include California, Alabama, Mississippi, New Jersey, and a few others. Some states partially conform, meaning they might offer a reduced exclusion percentage or have additional state-specific requirements. It's definitely worth checking with a tax professional familiar with your state's specific rules since this can make a huge difference in your total tax bill.

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Has anyone successfully claimed QSBS exclusion using TurboTax or other DIY tax software? I'm trying to figure out if I can handle this myself or if I need to find a specialized accountant.

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I tried doing this in TurboTax last year and it was super confusing. They do have a section for it but you have to know exactly where to look - it's under investment income, then capital gains, then there's a checkbox about "special conditions" where you can select Section 1202 stock. But honestly, it was really hard to tell if I was doing it right. I ended up hiring a CPA just to be safe since it was a big amount of money.

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