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Justin Evans

OIC for a first timer - calculating the right amount for IRS acceptance

Hey everyone! I recently got my Enrolled Agent certification (woo-hoo!) after working in tax prep for a while, but I'm facing my first Offer in Compromise case. I have a client who's struggling financially and an OIC seems like their best option, but I'm honestly not sure how to calculate a reasonable offer amount that the IRS would actually accept. I've done the research on Form 656 and reviewed Publication 656-B, but I'm still confused about what constitutes a "reasonable" offer. Does anyone have experience with what the IRS typically considers acceptable? I know they look at RCP (Reasonable Collection Potential), but is there some kind of sweet spot or formula for making an offer that won't get rejected right away? My client owes about $87,000 and their financial situation is pretty dire. I really want to help them but don't want to waste time with an offer that's DOA. Any advice from those who've successfully navigated OICs would be super appreciated!

Emily Parker

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The key to a successful Offer in Compromise is accurately calculating the Reasonable Collection Potential (RCP). The IRS primarily looks at two things: the realizable value of your client's assets and their future income minus necessary expenses. For assets, calculate what they could reasonably sell for (quick sale value, usually 80% of fair market value) minus any loans against them. For future income, multiply their monthly disposable income (income minus allowable expenses) by either 12 or 24 months, depending on the payment option they choose. Add these two numbers together and that's your baseline RCP. The "sweet spot" isn't really a percentage but rather submitting an offer that's equal to or slightly above their RCP. If your calculations are thorough and accurate, and you document your client's financial hardship well, offers at this level have the best acceptance rates. The most common mistake I see is undervaluing assets or not accounting for expenses properly according to IRS allowable standards.

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Ezra Collins

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Thanks for your answer, it's really helpful! I have a question though - my client has some unique expenses that aren't clearly covered in the IRS standards (medical treatments not covered by insurance). Should I use the national standards for their area or can I argue for these additional necessary expenses? And how strict is the IRS about documentation for hardship?

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Emily Parker

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For unique medical expenses not covered by insurance, you can absolutely claim those as necessary expenses beyond the standard amounts. The key is documentation - you'll need to provide medical bills, proof that insurance doesn't cover these treatments, and demonstrate they're medically necessary (a doctor's statement helps). The IRS is quite stringent about documentation for hardship claims. Every expense you claim above standard allowances needs to be thoroughly documented. Medical expenses are one of the few areas where the IRS is more flexible about exceeding standards, but they'll still want to see everything substantiated with proper paperwork. Don't just tell them about the hardship - show it with comprehensive documentation.

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Zara Perez

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Mohammed Khan

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Don't forget that OICs have a high rejection rate for first-time submissions! About 40% get returned as "not processable" because of missing information or technical errors. A few tips from someone who's submitted dozens: 1. Double check the math! Simple calculation errors get forms rejected fast 2. Include EVERY required form and signature 3. Submit current info - financial info older than 3 months gets rejected 4. Make sure the initial payment is included 5. Never leave sections blank - use "N/A" instead 6. Explain special circumstances in detail in a separate attachment

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Gavin King

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What's your experience with Doubt as to Collectibility vs. Effective Tax Administration OICs? My client technically has assets that could cover the liability but liquidating would cause severe economic hardship. I'm torn on which approach to take.

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Mohammed Khan

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In your situation, I'd recommend going with an Effective Tax Administration (ETA) OIC over Doubt as to Collectibility. Since your client has assets that could technically satisfy the liability, the IRS will likely reject a collectibility claim immediately. With ETA offers, thorough documentation of the economic hardship is absolutely critical. You need to clearly demonstrate that while the assets exist on paper, liquidating them would create an economic hardship beyond just being inconvenient. Medical situations, dependents who would be negatively impacted, or situations where liquidation would destroy income-producing assets are compelling arguments. Make sure to include a detailed narrative letter explaining exactly why collection would be economically devastating despite the technical ability to pay.

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Nathan Kim

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Has anyone used the Pre-qualifier tool on the IRS website for OICs? I ran my client through it and it said they're not a good candidate, but their situation seems perfect for an OIC to me. They have minimal assets, low income, and health issues. Is the tool accurate or should I ignore it?

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The prequalifier tool is VERY basic and misses a lot of nuance. I've had several clients "fail" the prequalifier but get OICs accepted. The tool doesn't account for special circumstances, complex asset situations, or many allowable expenses. I'd trust your professional judgment over the tool.

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Myles Regis

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Another crucial factor that hasn't been mentioned yet is timing - don't submit an OIC while your client is in an active bankruptcy proceeding or if they have unfiled tax returns. The IRS will automatically reject it. Also, make sure all current year estimated taxes are being paid if your client has ongoing tax obligations, otherwise they'll consider it a bad faith submission. One thing that really helped me on my first few OICs was creating a detailed timeline of my client's financial hardship. If there was a specific event (job loss, medical emergency, business failure) that created their inability to pay, document exactly when it happened and how it impacted their finances. The IRS revenue officers appreciate seeing a clear narrative of how someone went from being able to pay their taxes to genuinely unable to do so. Also, don't be afraid to request a payment plan for the offer amount if your client truly can't come up with a lump sum. The monthly payment option (paid over 24 months) often makes acceptance more likely since it shows good faith effort to pay what they can afford.

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PixelWarrior

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This is incredibly helpful advice, especially about the timing issues! I'm curious about the payment plan option you mentioned - does choosing the 24-month payment option affect how they calculate the RCP? I'm wondering if spreading payments out might actually increase the total offer amount since they'd be factoring in more months of future income. Also, have you found that revenue officers are more receptive to offers that include payment plans, or is it just that it demonstrates good faith?

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Lavonne Craft

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I have a client who owes tax debt for 2022-2024 for $13000, and I am trying to prepare an OIC for them as Doubt of Collectability, as well as a low-income certification. Tax liability is SE due to being a freelance writer on Schedule C who is unmarried, has no car or any assets, and only made $10875.00 this year. Her grandfather helps her pay her half of the utilities and helps with other things she needs since she isn't paid regularly. This is my first one, and after entering all the income for the RCP, it only shows 336 future income. I was wondering what a reasonable offer should be. Since it is a Schedule C, I would send 6 months of bank statements, correct?

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Ravi Gupta

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Based on your client's situation, an offer around $336-500 would be reasonable since your RCP calculation shows $336 in future income and minimal assets. For someone making $10,875 annually with no significant assets, this falls well within acceptable parameters for Doubt as to Collectibility. A few important points for your first OIC: 1. Yes, include 6 months of bank statements for Schedule C income - the IRS wants to see the irregular income pattern that's typical for freelancers. 2. Document the grandfather's assistance carefully. Since he's helping with utilities and necessities, make sure to show this isn't "income" to your client but genuine family support for basic living expenses. 3. The low-income certification is smart here - with income at $10,875, she likely qualifies and this waives the application fee and initial payment requirements. 4. Consider going slightly above your RCP calculation (maybe $400-450) to show good faith and account for any minor assets or income the IRS might value differently than you did. 5. Include a detailed hardship letter explaining how the irregular freelance income makes it impossible to maintain consistent payments, and how family assistance is necessary just for basic survival. The key is showing that even your minimal offer represents her true ability to pay given the circumstances. Good luck with your first OIC!

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Ravi Choudhury

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This is exactly the kind of detailed guidance I needed! Thank you for breaking it down so clearly. I'm particularly grateful for the tip about documenting the grandfather's assistance - I hadn't thought about how to properly characterize family help versus income. One quick follow-up question: when you mention going slightly above the RCP calculation to show good faith, is there a risk of offering too much? I want to be fair to my client but also don't want to lowball the IRS and get an automatic rejection. Is there a general rule of thumb for that "good faith" buffer amount? Also, should I include documentation of her irregular freelance payments (like copies of 1099s or client payment records) to support the income volatility argument, or are the bank statements sufficient?

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