OIC expenses per category: Should I claim actual amount, max allowable, or lesser of two?
I'm currently working on my Offer in Compromise application and I'm confused about how to report expenses when filling out the forms. I've been reviewing the standards on the IRS website, but I'm still unclear on something important. When submitting my bank statements and completing the OIC forms, should I be listing my actual expenses that came out of my account, the maximum allowable expense (according to the IRS guidelines), or whichever amount is less? Here's my specific situation: I don't directly pay housing expenses from my account. Instead, I pay for insurance, groceries, and utilities for everyone in the household while my partner covers the rent. So when it comes to claiming housing expenses, do I: 1) Put $0 since nothing actually comes out of my account for rent specifically 2) List the actual amount my partner pays each month (around $1,500) 3) Use the standard allowable amount from the IRS guidelines for my county (approximately $2,400) I'm really confused about how to properly document these expenses for my OIC application. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Isabella Costa
The answer depends on your specific situation and how you're filing the Offer in Compromise. For Form 433-A (OIC), you need to consider both how you're filing and your household situation. If you're living with someone and sharing expenses, even if you're not directly paying the rent/mortgage, you should still claim your portion of the housing expenses. The IRS looks at your actual household situation, not just what comes directly from your account. In your situation, I would recommend listing your reasonable share of the housing costs (option 2), but be prepared to justify why this is reasonable given your household arrangement. Document clearly how you contribute to household expenses through utilities, food, etc., as part of your overall housing arrangement. The IRS will compare your claimed expenses against their allowable standards, and they'll generally accept the lesser of your actual expenses or their standard amount. So if your partner pays $1,500 and the IRS standard is $2,400, the $1,500 would be more appropriate to claim.
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Ravi Malhotra
•But what if they live together but aren't married? Does that change how the IRS views the "household"? I'm in a similar situation and not sure if I should be listing full expenses or just my portion.
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Isabella Costa
•For non-married couples living together, the IRS still considers the household situation but focuses on your fair share of expenses. Being unmarried doesn't automatically disqualify you from claiming housing expenses, but you need to clearly document the arrangement. If you're splitting expenses with a non-spouse, you should claim your proportional share based on your contribution to the household. Document how expenses are divided and how you contribute to housing costs, even if indirectly through other bills. The key is showing a consistent pattern of shared financial responsibility that the IRS can verify against your financial records.
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Freya Christensen
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Chloe Davis
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Freya Christensen
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Chloe Davis
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Diego Chavez
•How does this actually work? Seems impossible to get through to the IRS these days. I've been trying for weeks to ask about my OIC expenses.
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Anastasia Smirnova
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Anastasia Smirnova
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Sean O'Brien
For OIC applications, its important to know the IRS will look at your entire household situation not just whats coming directly out of your account. When I did my OIC last year, I had a similar situation. What worked for me was: 1. I documented exactly how expenses were shared in our household 2. Showed how I contributed to household expenses even tho my name wasn't on the rent 3. Created a simple spreadsheet showing all household costs and how they were divided 4. Included bank statements showing my regular payments for utilities, food, etc. The revenue officer who reviewed my case told me they care about the reality of your living situation, not just who writes which check. Make sure you document everything clearly!
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Zara Shah
•How detailed did your spreadsheet need to be? Did you just do monthly averages or did you have to break down every single expense? I'm overwhelmed by all the documentation.
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Sean O'Brien
•I used monthly averages over a 6-month period, which seemed to work well. I didn't itemize every single grocery trip or utility payment, but instead showed consistent patterns of spending in each category. The key was showing the overall household expenses and then clearly indicating which portion I was responsible for. I included a short written explanation of our arrangement (how my partner pays rent while I cover utilities, food, insurance, etc.) and then backed it up with bank statements showing those regular payments. The IRS doesn't need to see every detail, but they do need to understand the overall financial arrangement and see that it's consistent with what you're claiming on your forms.
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Luca Bianchi
Has anyone actually gotten an OIC approved recently? I heard they're rejecting almost all of them now because of new internal policies. Not sure if its even worth all this trouble with the expenses.
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GalacticGuardian
•I just got one approved last month. It took about 9 months from submission to approval, but they did accept it. The key was super detailed documentation and being very transparent about my financial situation. Don't give up before you try!
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Luca Bianchi
•That's good to hear! 9 months is a long time but worth it for tax relief. Did they negotiate your offer amount or accept what you proposed? I'm trying to figure out how to calculate a reasonable offer.
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Amara Torres
Based on your situation, you should list your reasonable share of the housing expenses even though you're not directly paying rent. The IRS looks at your overall household contribution, not just whose name is on specific bills. For your specific case, I'd recommend option 2 - listing the actual amount your partner pays ($1,500) as your housing expense, but you'll need to clearly document how you contribute to the household through utilities, groceries, and insurance payments. This shows the IRS that you're genuinely sharing the housing burden. Make sure to include: - A written explanation of your living arrangement - Bank statements showing your regular payments for household expenses - Documentation that your combined contributions (your utilities/food + partner's rent) cover the total household costs The IRS will compare this against their standard allowable amount ($2,400 in your case), and since $1,500 is less than the standard, it should be acceptable. The key is transparency and consistent documentation that matches what you report on your forms.
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Marcus Williams
•This is really helpful advice! I'm new to dealing with OIC applications and had no idea the IRS would look at household contributions rather than just direct payments. One question though - when you say "written explanation of your living arrangement," does this need to be a formal document or can it just be a simple letter explaining how expenses are split? I'm worried about making it too complicated but also want to make sure I provide enough detail for them to understand the situation.
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