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Lucas Kowalski

New LLC with EIN Number - No Sales Yet, Tax Filing Question

So I started my LLC mid-2024 - got all the legal stuff sorted like articles of organization, business name registration, bought equipment and tools for the business, etc. The problem is I launched everything pretty late in the year and ended up with zero sales but about $4,300 in startup expenses. I know my LLC is set up as a pass-through entity for tax purposes, but I'm confused about how to report this on my personal taxes since there was literally no income. Do I need to generate some kind of 1099-K or other 1099 form showing $0.00 in revenue? I'm trying to figure out where exactly I'm supposed to indicate that my business had zero income for 2024. I'm using TurboTax Desktop and getting a bit lost in the business section. This is my first time filing with a business so any help would be super appreciated!

You don't need to issue any 1099-K or 1099 forms showing zero income. Those forms are typically issued BY businesses to contractors or vendors they've paid, not FOR your own business revenue. For your LLC with no income, you'll still need to file a Schedule C with your personal tax return. You'll just show zero for income and enter all your legitimate startup expenses. This will create a business loss that will offset other income on your personal tax return. Make sure to keep all receipts and documentation for those startup costs. In TurboTax Desktop, when you get to the business section, it will ask if you have self-employment or business income. Say yes, enter your business information, then enter zero for income and add all your expenses in the appropriate categories. The software will guide you through completing Schedule C properly.

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Thanks for the quick response! So just to be clear, I don't need to generate any 1099s for myself as the business owner, right? I was confused because I thought maybe I needed to formally document the zero income somehow. For the expenses, I have about $2,800 in equipment purchases, $950 in legal fees for setting up the LLC, and around $550 in various supplies. Would these all just go into their respective categories on Schedule C?

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You definitely don't need to generate any 1099s for yourself as the business owner. Those forms are only for reporting payments you make to others, not for documenting your own business income. Yes, enter those expenses in their respective categories on Schedule C. The equipment purchases would likely go under "Equipment" or "Supplies" depending on the nature and cost of each item (items over $2,500 might need to be depreciated rather than expensed). Legal fees for LLC setup go under "Legal and Professional Services," and supplies would go under "Supplies." TurboTax will walk you through categorizing each expense properly.

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - even with zero sales, you might need to file other forms depending on your state. For example, in California, LLCs have to file a Form 568 and pay an annual $800 franchise tax even if you had no activity. Check your state's requirements for LLCs. Some states require annual reports or have minimum taxes regardless of whether you had any income. That's separate from your federal filing requirements.

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Oh that's a good point! I'm in Minnesota - do you know if there are similar requirements here? I paid the initial filing fee but wasn't aware of any annual requirements.

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In Minnesota, you do have an annual filing requirement - you need to file an Annual Renewal with the Secretary of State by December 31st each year. The good news is there's no fee for the annual renewal in Minnesota (unlike California's painful $800 minimum), but you must file it or your LLC could be administratively dissolved. You can do this online through the Minnesota Secretary of State website. It's pretty straightforward - just updating your registered agent and address information. This is separate from your tax filing requirements.

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Liam O'Reilly

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Make sure you keep all your receipts organized! I messed up my first year with my LLC by not properly tracking expenses, and it was a nightmare come tax time. I recommend setting up a simple spreadsheet now with columns for date, vendor, amount, expense category, and payment method. Add all your 2024 expenses and keep it updated going forward. This will be super helpful when you file taxes next year and actually have some income to offset those expenses against.

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Chloe Delgado

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What about using accounting software instead of spreadsheets? I've heard QuickBooks is good for LLCs but it seems expensive for a business with no income yet.

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