Need help understanding how IRS Form 8919 works for employee misclassification
Hey everyone, I'm pretty clueless when it comes to taxes. Even though I've been working since I was 19 (I'm 24 now), I still struggle with basic tax stuff and usually have my mom handle my tax returns. I started working for my uncle's small medical practice as his office admin back in March. Before me, he didn't have any actual "employees" - just independent contractors - so he had no system set up for withholding taxes from paychecks. I figured we'd sort it out before I earned too much to worry about owing a bunch next year, but then COVID flared up again and the Department of Labor got swamped with claims. My uncle has apparently submitted paperwork to be able to withhold my taxes, but we're stuck in limbo waiting to hear back from the DOL. I've tried calling the state multiple times but either get disconnected or listen to ringing for literally an hour before giving up. I've been trying to research this myself but honestly get lost in all the tax jargon. I've come across Form 8919 for misclassified employees, but I don't really understand how it works? Does Form 8919 somehow retroactively withhold my share of taxes? Or am I completely misunderstanding what it does? Will filing this form prevent me from owing a ton when tax time comes? I've been setting aside about 20% of each paycheck following my mom's advice, but with my hours being cut recently, it's getting hard to keep that up. Really worried about getting slammed with a huge tax bill next April :
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DeShawn Washington
The Form 8919 is specifically for workers who believe they've been misclassified as independent contractors when they should actually be considered employees. It lets you report your share of Social Security and Medicare taxes when your employer didn't withhold these taxes from your pay. Here's what you need to understand: If you're truly an employee (which it sounds like you are), your uncle should be handling both income tax withholding AND payroll taxes (Social Security/Medicare). As an employee, you're responsible for half of these payroll taxes while your employer pays the other half. Independent contractors, on the other hand, pay the full amount themselves through self-employment tax. Form 8919 doesn't retroactively withhold taxes - it helps you properly report and pay your correct share of Social Security and Medicare taxes (instead of the higher self-employment tax rate) when filing your return. You'd still need to pay any income tax due on those earnings. The IRS has a test to determine worker classification called the "right-of-control test" looking at behavioral control, financial control, and relationship factors. Based on what you've described, you sound like an employee, not a contractor.
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Lena Kowalski
•Thanks for explaining! So using Form 8919 would at least save me from paying the full self-employment tax rate? About how much difference would that make percentage-wise? Also, if the DOL eventually approves my uncle's paperwork and he starts withholding taxes, would that only apply going forward or could it somehow be applied to what I've already earned?
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DeShawn Washington
•Using Form 8919 would save you about 7.65% compared to self-employment tax. Self-employment tax is roughly 15.3% (covering both employer and employee portions), while employees only pay their half at 7.65%. So it makes a significant difference! Once your uncle's paperwork is approved, the withholding would only apply going forward. For the wages already paid, you'd still need Form 8919 for those past earnings where no tax was withheld. Keep setting aside that 20% for now - it's a good practice. When your uncle starts withholding, you might notice your actual take-home pay decrease, but that means taxes are being properly handled.
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Giovanni Rossi
Has anyone had success filing Form 8919 without having an official determination from the IRS or DOL? My employer is clearly treating me as an employee (sets my hours, provides equipment, etc.) but refuses to classify me properly, and I can't wait months for an official determination before filing.
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Aaliyah Jackson
•Yes! I used Classification Code H on Form 8919 last year in a similar situation. It's specifically for when "you received no Form W-2 and you are not eligible to use Code G." I included a statement explaining my work situation and why I believed I was misclassified. The IRS accepted my return without question, though I've heard they sometimes follow up later to verify the information. Make sure you keep detailed records of how your employer controls your work - schedule requirements, supervision, training, etc. That documentation is key if they do review your case.
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Giovanni Rossi
•Thanks for sharing your experience! That's really helpful to know. Did you have to pay any penalties or interest when using Code H, or did it work just like a normal tax filing? I'll definitely start documenting all the ways my employer controls my work schedule and process.
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KylieRose
Just to clarify something important - Form 8919 doesn't eliminate your tax liability. You still owe the income tax on all those earnings. What Form 8919 does is ensure you're only paying the employee portion of Social Security and Medicare taxes (7.65%) rather than the full self-employment tax rate (15.3%). For someone in your tax bracket, you should probably be setting aside around 15% for federal income tax PLUS the 7.65% for Social Security/Medicare. So that 20% your mom suggested might actually be a bit low depending on your total annual income. I'd recommend using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator tool to get a more precise figure based on your specific situation.
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Lena Kowalski
•Oh wow, that's definitely higher than I was planning for. I thought the 20% would cover everything! Do state taxes come out of this too or would I need to set aside additional money for those?
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KylieRose
•State taxes would be in addition to the federal taxes I mentioned, and they vary significantly depending on which state you're in. Some states have no income tax (like Texas and Florida), while others have rates up to 13% (California). You can use your state's department of revenue website to find a withholding calculator specific to your location. For most people, setting aside another 5-7% for state taxes is reasonable, unless you're in a no-income-tax state or a high-tax state like California or New York.
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Giovanni Mancini
•This is really helpful clarification! I'm in Pennsylvania, so I'll definitely need to factor in state taxes too. Between federal income tax, Social Security/Medicare, and state taxes, it sounds like I should probably be setting aside closer to 25-30% of my gross pay to be safe. That's a lot more than I was planning for, but better to be prepared than get hit with a huge bill next April. Thanks for mentioning the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator - I'll check that out this weekend.
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