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Ethan Taylor

Started job where I had to sign a W-9 form. What should I do now?

I'm completely lost when it comes to anything tax-related. I've searched online but still feel confused, so I'm hoping someone can clear things up for me. Currently I work two different jobs. At my main job, I filled out the standard paperwork I've been familiar with at every workplace over my 12+ years in the workforce. However, my second job (which I just started at a local restaurant as a server) had me fill out a W-9 form instead. I get paid entirely in cash - no tax withholding, no paystubs, and I don't think I'll receive a W-2 form next year. There's also a bit of a language barrier with management, which makes it difficult to ask questions directly. What exactly should I be tracking, and how should I do it? I'm assuming I need to document my weekly earnings plus tips somehow, but do I need a special spreadsheet, should I be keeping my bank deposit records, or something else? Also, since this job isn't withholding any taxes, I assume I'll need to pay taxes on this income later. Is there a way I can adjust my withholding at my main job to have additional taxes taken out so I don't end up with a big tax bill when I file next year?

Yuki Ito

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When you fill out a W-9, that means the employer is treating you as an independent contractor, not an employee. This is important because: At the end of the year, instead of a W-2, you'll receive a 1099-NEC form (if you earn $600 or more). This means you're responsible for paying both income tax AND self-employment tax (about 15.3% covering Social Security and Medicare). For record-keeping: Create a simple spreadsheet tracking your daily/weekly income including tips. Save all receipts related to work expenses (portion of cell phone, mileage if you deliver, uniform costs, etc.) as these might be deductible on Schedule C. For tax planning: Yes, you can adjust your W-4 at your main job to have additional withholding. On your W-4 form, there's a line for "extra withholding" - you can specify an additional amount per paycheck. A rough estimate: set aside about 25-30% of your restaurant income for taxes. You should also consider making quarterly estimated tax payments if your tax liability will be significant. The IRS has a form 1040-ES for this purpose.

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Carmen Lopez

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Thanks for the helpful info. How do I know if I should be an independent contractor though? I thought servers are usually employees, even if paid in cash? And what happens if the restaurant doesn't send me a 1099 next year?

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Yuki Ito

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You're right to question this. Generally, servers should be classified as employees, not independent contractors. The IRS has specific tests for proper classification - if the business controls when, where and how you work, you're typically an employee. If they don't send a 1099, you're still legally required to report all income earned. The IRS doesn't need to receive a form to know you should be paying taxes. Keep your own records and report your income honestly regardless of what forms you receive or don't receive.

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GalacticGuru

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Just wanted to mention that you should be very careful with this setup. If you're truly being paid as a server with cash tips, but they had you fill out a W-9 instead of normal employment paperwork, your employer might be trying to avoid paying their share of taxes. They're supposed to be paying half of your Social Security and Medicare taxes. When they classify you as an independent contractor (W-9/1099), YOU pay the full 15.3% self-employment tax instead of just 7.65% as an employee. Plus they avoid unemployment insurance, workers comp, etc. Based on what you described (they control your schedule, workplace, etc.), you're likely misclassified. Consider filing that SS-8 form someone mentioned to get the IRS to make a determination. Your employer could potentially owe back taxes plus penalties.

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Ethan Taylor

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Wow I had no idea about the different tax percentages! So if I'm understanding this right, they're basically making me pay double the taxes I should be? The job pays pretty well with tips so I hadn't noticed anything off, but that doesn't seem right. Would filing that SS-8 form cause problems for me at work?

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GalacticGuru

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Yes, they're essentially shifting their tax burden onto you. As an employee, you'd pay 7.65% for Social Security/Medicare and they'd pay a matching 7.65%. As a contractor, you pay the full 15.3% plus you don't get any employment protections. Filing an SS-8 could potentially cause workplace tension since the IRS will contact your employer as part of the determination process. Some employers do retaliate, though that's illegal. You might want to first have a conversation with your boss about proper classification, or consider if the extra cash is worth the additional tax burden before taking action.

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Amara Nnamani

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Quick tip from someone who's been a server for years: GET A TIP JOURNAL! Record your cash tips daily, not weekly. Memory gets fuzzy and you'll either cheat yourself or risk an audit problem. I use a cheap notebook with date, shift (lunch/dinner), and amount. Takes 10 seconds after each shift. Also note any cash expenses for work - special shoes, pens, whatever. Even if this isn't your main job, doing this right will save you so much stress at tax time.

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Do you include credit card tips in your journal too or just cash? And do you ever get audited? I always wonder how the IRS would even know what my actual cash tips were.

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Make sure you're setting aside money for taxes regularly! I learned this the hard way. First year as a 1099 bartender I didn't save anything and got hit with a $3800 tax bill I couldn't pay. Ended up on a payment plan with the IRS which added fees and interest. Now I automatically transfer 25% of all my cash into a separate "tax" savings account each time I deposit my tips. Come tax time, I usually have a little extra which becomes a nice bonus.

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Ethan Taylor

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This is really smart advice, thank you! I'll open a separate savings account just for taxes. Is 25% enough to cover everything? Someone mentioned it could be 30%+ with the self-employment taxes.

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For me, 25% has been enough, but it really depends on your total income and tax bracket. If you're already making good money at your W-2 job, you might need closer to 30-35% since this additional income could push you into a higher bracket. Better to overestimate and have money left over than underestimate and come up short! I actually adjusted mine to 30% this year since I'm making more overall, and it's been working out well. Just make sure that account is somewhat difficult to access so you're not tempted to dip into it.

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