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Collins Angel

Need help understanding Form 1116 Foreign Tax Credit when foreign taxes exceed $300. Really confused!

I'm doing my mom's taxes this year and I'm completely lost on the Foreign Tax Credit stuff. In past years, I just added up all the foreign taxes from her 1099-DIVs and put the total on Schedule 3, Line 1 for the Foreign Tax Credit. Simple enough. But this year her foreign taxes paid are like $420, and apparently if it's over $300 you have to fill out Form 1116 instead. I've been trying to make sense of the instructions but it's making my head spin! Her income is only passive category (dividends from foreign companies in mutual funds she owns). I did see something about an "Adjustment exception" on page 10 of the Form 1116 instructions that says she can elect not to adjust her foreign source qualified dividends. My big question is about Form 1116, Part III, Line 16. Mom had around $33,000 in net capital losses (US source) on Schedule D, Line 16. Do I need to write that loss on Line 16 of Form 1116 as a negative adjustment to the amount on Line 15 (which is about $4,000)? If I do that, Line 17 becomes negative, which means her net foreign source taxable income is negative, and she gets no foreign tax credit. But maybe the foreign taxes paid could be used for a future credit? Any help would be appreciated. This form is driving me crazy!

Marcelle Drum

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The Foreign Tax Credit can definitely be confusing when you cross that $300 threshold! Let me try to help clarify this for you. For Form 1116, Part III, Line 16 is indeed where you report net capital losses from U.S. sources. The purpose of this line is to properly allocate your worldwide capital losses against your foreign income. Since your mom had $33,000 in net capital losses from U.S. sources on Schedule D, you would include this amount on Line 16. When you do this, yes, it will likely result in a negative number on Line 17, which means no Foreign Tax Credit for this year. However, you're correct that these foreign taxes don't disappear - they can be carried forward for up to 10 years. You'll need to complete Form 1116 to establish this carryover. The idea behind this is that the IRS doesn't want you claiming foreign tax credits when domestic losses have essentially offset your foreign income for U.S. tax purposes.

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Collins Angel

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Thanks for explaining that. So if I'm understanding correctly, because my mom had significant U.S. capital losses, the IRS considers those losses to offset her foreign dividend income, which means she doesn't get to claim the foreign tax credit this year even though foreign taxes were withheld? Does that mean I need to file Form 1116 every year going forward until she uses up the carryforward amount? And will she eventually get the full benefit of the foreign taxes paid, or is some of it lost forever?

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Marcelle Drum

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Yes, you've understood correctly. The IRS views your mom's U.S. capital losses as offsetting her worldwide income, including those foreign dividends. Since those losses have already reduced her U.S. tax liability, allowing a foreign tax credit would essentially be a double benefit. You will need to file Form 1116 in future years until she uses the carryforward amount. The good news is that none of it is necessarily lost forever - the foreign taxes can be carried forward for up to 10 years. As your mom has foreign income and U.S. tax liability in future years, she'll be able to utilize these credits. Just make sure to keep good records of the carryforward amounts each year.

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The Foreign Tax Credit calculation gets way more complicated when you have capital losses. One thing to keep in mind: your capital losses first offset capital gains, and then up to $3,000 can offset ordinary income (like those dividends). In your situation, make sure you're properly categorizing the foreign income. If it's all from mutual funds holding foreign stocks, it's all passive category income, so at least you only need to fill out one Form 1116. Also, don't forget about carrybacks! If you can't use the foreign tax credit this year, you can carry it back 1 year before carrying it forward up to 10 years. Might be worth checking if your mom could benefit from amending last year's return.

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Collins Angel

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Thanks for that info about carrybacks - I had no idea! How would I figure out if it's worth amending last year's return? Mom didn't have capital losses last year, so would that mean she could potentially use some of this year's foreign tax credit on last year's taxes?

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Yes, that's exactly right! Since your mom didn't have capital losses last year, she might be able to use some of this year's unused foreign tax credit on last year's return. You'll need to look at last year's tax return and see if she had foreign income and if she paid U.S. tax on that income. The key calculation is comparing her U.S. tax on that foreign income to the foreign taxes paid. If her U.S. tax on that income was higher than the foreign taxes she paid last year, then she might benefit from carrying back some of this year's unused credit. You would need to file Form 1040X to amend last year's return along with a revised Form 1116 showing the carryback.

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Has anyone tried using TurboTax for Form 1116? I'm having similar issues and wondering if the software handles these situations correctly. My father-in-law has foreign dividends and U.S. capital losses too.

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Ezra Beard

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I used TurboTax last year for a similar situation. It does complete Form 1116, but I found it didn't explain things well. It just asks you questions and fills in the form. For the capital loss allocation on Line 16, it seemed to get it right, but I wasn't confident I answered all the questions correctly since I didn't really understand what was happening behind the scenes.

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AstroAce

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I went through this exact same situation with my elderly parent's taxes last year! The Form 1116 with capital losses is definitely one of the most confusing parts of tax preparation. One thing that really helped me was understanding that the capital loss adjustment on Line 16 is actually protecting you from double-counting losses. Think of it this way: if your mom already reduced her U.S. tax liability with those $33,000 capital losses, the IRS doesn't want her to also get a credit for foreign taxes on income that was essentially "wiped out" by those losses. A few practical tips that made this easier for me: - Keep detailed records of the carryforward amounts each year - you'll need them - The 10-year carryforward period is generous, so don't stress about "losing" the credit - Consider whether bunching foreign income or capital gains/losses in future years might help optimize the credit usage Also, double-check that all the foreign taxes are actually eligible for the credit. Some mutual funds report foreign taxes that don't qualify, which can throw off your calculations. The bright side is that once you get through Form 1116 the first time, subsequent years become much more manageable since you understand the logic behind it!

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Olivia Kay

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This is such helpful advice! I really appreciate the way you explained the logic behind the capital loss adjustment - that makes so much more sense now. The idea that it prevents "double-counting" losses is exactly what I needed to understand. Your point about keeping detailed records of carryforward amounts is spot on. I'm already worried about tracking this properly over multiple years. Do you happen to know if there's a specific IRS form or worksheet that helps track these carryforwards, or did you just create your own spreadsheet? Also, that tip about checking whether all the foreign taxes from mutual funds actually qualify is really important. I hadn't thought about that - I just assumed everything on the 1099-DIV was eligible. I'll definitely need to look into that more carefully. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's reassuring to know others have navigated this successfully!

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