< Back to IRS

NeonNova

Missing basis and earnings on 1099-Q form, worried about taxes on education expenses

I've got a situation with a 1099-Q from T-Rowe Price for a Coverdell ESA and I'm pretty worried. Boxes 2 and 3 (basis and earnings) are completely blank on the form. I'm definitely going to have distributions that exceed my qualified education expenses this year, so I need to figure out how much is taxable. I called T-Rowe Price to ask for help determining my basis and earnings, but they told me they don't maintain cost basis information for Coverdell ESAs. The best they can do is send me all my past statements. I'm not even sure how to calculate everything correctly from those statements since I've been taking distributions for the past couple years. Even if I somehow manage to figure out an accurate basis and earnings amount from reviewing all those statements, will the IRS accept my calculations since the information isn't actually listed on my 1099-Q? Does anyone know if T-Rowe Price is legally required to provide this earnings and basis information to me? I definitely don't want to end up paying taxes on the entire distribution amount when only a portion should be taxable!

You're dealing with a common but frustrating situation. When a 1099-Q has blank boxes for basis and earnings, the responsibility unfortunately falls on you as the account owner to track this information. T-Rowe Price isn't technically doing anything wrong here. While they're required to issue the 1099-Q showing the total distribution, they're not legally obligated to track or report the basis and earnings breakdown for Coverdell ESAs. This is different from some other investment vehicles. Getting all your statements is actually the right approach. You'll need to create a paper trail showing your contributions (basis) and how the account has grown (earnings). Keep a detailed spreadsheet of all contributions made to the account and when they were made - that's your basis. The difference between your total distribution and your basis is your earnings. When you file, you'll report only the taxable portion (earnings) that exceeds your qualified education expenses. Keep all your documentation in case of questions from the IRS. They will accept your calculations if you have the paperwork to back it up.

0 coins

Thanks for this info. So if I've been making distributions for multiple years, do I need to recalculate my basis each time? Like if I started with $10k basis total, took $3k last year, would my basis this year start at $7k? Or is it more complicated than that?

0 coins

When you take distributions from a Coverdell ESA over multiple years, you need to allocate both earnings and basis proportionally with each distribution. It's not as simple as just subtracting previous distributions from your original basis. For example, if your account had $10,000 total with $8,000 basis and $2,000 earnings (20% earnings ratio), and you took a $3,000 distribution, that distribution would consist of $2,400 basis (80%) and $600 earnings (20%). Your remaining basis would be $5,600, not $7,000. This gets more complex as market values change between distributions, which is why those statements will be crucial for recreating this history.

0 coins

I went through a similar nightmare with my kid's Coverdell last year. The statements from T-Rowe were driving me crazy until I found this lifesaver tool at https://taxr.ai that helped me sort through all the documents and calculate my basis properly. I uploaded all my account statements and it identified my contributions vs earnings automatically. Saved me hours of spreadsheet work! The tool actually creates a tax-compliant worksheet showing how it calculated everything, which I printed and kept with my tax records in case of an audit. What surprised me was that it could separate qualified vs non-qualified expenses too, which was super helpful since my situation was similar to yours where I exceeded the qualified amount.

0 coins

Ava Thompson

•

How accurate was it? I've got about 8 years of statements from a Coverdell and the thought of going through them manually is making me want to just pay tax on everything and be done with it.

0 coins

Miguel Ramos

•

Sounds interesting but skeptical. Did it actually identify which expenses were qualified vs non-qualified? Because that's a judgment call in many cases. Like my kid's laptop - partly for school, partly for games.

0 coins

It was surprisingly accurate - I double-checked some calculations manually and everything matched up perfectly. The documentation it created showed every transaction it found. For qualified vs non-qualified expenses, you actually categorize them yourself and the tool applies the tax rules. When I had mixed-use items like laptops, I entered what percentage was for education, and it calculated the qualified portion. It basically gives you a defensible paper trail for any decisions you make, which is what the IRS wants to see.

0 coins

Ava Thompson

•

Just wanted to update after trying taxr.ai for my Coverdell ESA nightmare. Can't believe I was about to manually go through 8 years of statements! The tool identified all my contributions and calculated my basis in about 10 minutes. Turns out I had a much higher basis than I thought - I was actually on track to overpay my taxes by nearly $1,800 because I was being super conservative with my estimates. The best part was the detailed report it generated showing exactly how it reached those numbers. For anyone dealing with missing info on 1099-Q forms, this seriously saved my sanity and probably paid for itself many times over by getting the numbers right.

0 coins

If you're still having trouble getting through to T-Rowe Price for complete information, you might want to try Claimyr (https://claimyr.com). I was in a similar situation and needed to talk to someone at the IRS about my 1099-Q reporting issues after my account provider was less than helpful. I tried calling the IRS directly multiple times but kept getting stuck in that endless phone tree hell. Claimyr got me connected to an actual IRS agent in about 20 minutes when I'd previously spent hours just trying to get through. They have this cool demo video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The IRS agent I spoke with confirmed that my calculated basis was acceptable as long as I had documentation to back it up. They actually gave me specific guidance on what records to keep in case of questions later.

0 coins

StarSailor

•

How exactly does this work? Is it just another phone service or something? I've been trying to reach the IRS for weeks about my education credits and keep getting disconnected.

0 coins

Yeah right. Nobody gets through to the IRS this time of year. I've been calling for TWO MONTHS about my missing refund. This sounds like a scam to get desperate people's money.

0 coins

It's not another phone service - they use technology to navigate the IRS phone system for you and call you back once they've reached a human. It basically does the waiting for you. I was completely skeptical too before trying it. I had spent three different days trying to get through about my education credits and 1099-Q issues. The longest I waited with Claimyr was about 25 minutes before they connected me to an IRS representative, which saved me hours of frustration and hold music. They don't handle the actual conversation with the IRS - they just get you connected to a real person.

0 coins

I need to eat my words about Claimyr. After posting that skeptical comment, I was desperate enough to try it for my refund issue AND the 1099-Q question I had. Holy crap it actually worked. Got connected to an IRS agent in 31 minutes when I'd spent literally hours trying on my own. The agent confirmed exactly what others have said here - they will accept your calculated basis for the Coverdell as long as you have documentation supporting it. For anyone dealing with missing info on 1099-Q forms AND struggling to get IRS confirmation about how to handle it, this service is legit. Saved me a ton of stress during an already stressful tax season.

0 coins

Yara Sabbagh

•

For future reference, one thing I've learned from dealing with Coverdell ESAs is to track everything yourself from day one. I keep a separate spreadsheet with all contributions, growth, and distributions. The IRS Publication 970 covers this in detail, but here's the simple version: contributions = basis, growth = earnings. When you take money out, it's proportional (if 30% of your account is earnings, then 30% of your distribution is earnings). You only pay taxes on earnings distributed that exceed qualified education expenses. So if you have $5000 in qualified expenses but distributed $6000 with $1500 being earnings, you'd only pay tax on $500 of earnings.

0 coins

NeonNova

•

Thanks for the breakdown. Is there any specific format the IRS wants for documenting this? I'm worried about getting audited if I'm creating my own calculations without the "official" numbers from T-Rowe.

0 coins

Yara Sabbagh

•

There's no specific IRS-required format for tracking your Coverdell basis and earnings. What matters is that your documentation clearly shows your methodology and the paper trail supporting it. Keep all contribution records (cancelled checks, account statements showing deposits), all distribution records (1099-Qs, withdrawal confirmations), and all qualified expense documentation (tuition statements, receipts for books and supplies). Create a spreadsheet showing how you calculated the proportion of basis and earnings for each distribution. In an audit, they want to see that you made a good-faith effort to track everything properly and have the documents to back up your claims.

0 coins

Wait so if TRP doesn't track the basis and earnings for you, how do they even know what to report to the IRS? Are they just sending the 1099-Q with the total distribution amount and leaving it to us to figure out the rest? Seems kinda lazy on their part!

0 coins

Yes, that's exactly what they're doing. They report the gross distribution (Box 1) to the IRS but leave Boxes 2 and 3 blank. It's not actually laziness though - it's because they typically don't have complete information about all your contributions if you've ever transferred funds from another custodian or made contributions through different channels.

0 coins

Thanks for explaining. Still seems like they're passing the buck to us regular folks but at least I understand why now. Guess I better start digging through all my old statements!

0 coins

This is such a common frustration with Coverdell ESAs! I went through the exact same thing last year with my daughter's account from a different provider. The blank boxes on the 1099-Q are incredibly stressful when you know you'll have taxable distributions. Here's what I learned from my tax preparer: the IRS absolutely will accept your calculations as long as you have proper documentation. Keep every single statement, contribution record, and withdrawal confirmation. Create a clear spreadsheet showing your methodology - date of contributions (your basis), account growth over time, and the proportional calculation for each distribution. One tip that helped me: when reviewing your statements, look for any fees that were deducted from the account. Those reduce your basis, so don't forget to account for them in your calculations. The good news is that once you get through this year's calculations, you'll have a solid system in place for tracking everything going forward. It's a pain now but will save you headaches later!

0 coins

Amara Eze

•

This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the fees you mentioned - I definitely see management fees and other charges on my statements. When you say they reduce the basis, do you mean I should subtract those fees from my total contributions when calculating my basis? Or is it more complex than that? I want to make sure I'm not missing anything that could affect my calculations.

0 coins

Eli Wang

•

Great question about the fees! You're right to think about this carefully. Management fees and other account charges don't actually reduce your basis (contributions) - they reduce the overall account value, which affects your earnings calculation instead. Here's how it works: if you contributed $10,000 over time (your basis) and the account grew to $12,000, but then $500 in fees were deducted, your account value becomes $11,500. Your basis is still $10,000, but your earnings are now $1,500 instead of $2,000. The fees essentially eat into your account growth rather than your contributions. This is important for the proportional calculation when you take distributions - the ratio of basis to total account value will be higher when fees have reduced the earnings portion. Keep track of all fees paid from the account as they'll show up in your statements and help explain any discrepancies in your account growth calculations.

0 coins

This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation with my son's Coverdell ESA from Fidelity - also got a 1099-Q with blank boxes 2 and 3. One thing I want to add for anyone going through this: when you're gathering all your statements, make sure to include any year-end summaries or annual statements your provider sent you. These often have helpful breakdowns of contributions vs. earnings that can serve as checkpoints for your calculations. Also, if you've ever rolled over funds from another Coverdell ESA (like when changing beneficiaries or custodians), make sure you have documentation of the basis that transferred with those funds. That basis carries over and needs to be included in your total. The IRS Form 8863 instructions actually have a worksheet for calculating the taxable portion of education savings account distributions that might be helpful as a template for organizing your calculations. It's designed for different accounts but the methodology is similar. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it's reassuring to know the IRS will accept our good-faith calculations when the custodian leaves us hanging!

0 coins

IRS AI

Expert Assistant
Secure

Powered by Claimyr AI

T
I
+
20,087 users helped today