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Chloe Taylor

Is pension payout considered earned income for EITC purposes?

My husband recently had an option to take a lump sum payout from a pension plan he had from an old job. We decided to go for it since we needed some money for home repairs. The issue is that I'm now realizing this bumped our AGI up to about $97k, and I'm confused about how this affects our tax situation. I was under the impression that pension distributions don't count as earned income for the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), but now I'm second-guessing myself. We were hoping to qualify for EITC this year since my hours got cut at work. Can anyone help clarify what actually counts as earned income for EITC purposes? Is the pension payout included or excluded? I'm trying to figure out if we might still qualify or if taking that payout completely removed our eligibility. Really appreciate any insight!

ShadowHunter

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Pension payouts are NOT considered earned income for EITC purposes. The IRS is pretty specific about what counts as earned income for the EITC, and it generally includes wages, salaries, tips, other taxable employee compensation, and net earnings from self-employment. What definitely doesn't count as earned income: pension and annuity payments, Social Security benefits, unemployment benefits, alimony, and child support. These are considered unearned income. However, while the pension payout doesn't count toward your earned income (which is good for EITC purposes), it does count toward your Adjusted Gross Income (AGI). Unfortunately, there are AGI limits for the EITC as well. For 2025 filing, if your AGI is around $97k, you're likely above the income limits regardless of your filing status or number of qualifying children. The pension distribution raised your AGI but didn't change your earned income, which is what the "EI" in EITC is based on. However, you still need to meet both the earned income requirements AND stay below the AGI thresholds.

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Diego Ramirez

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What if I received a partial pension distribution but am still working part-time? Does that mean I can still potentially qualify since I have some actual earned income, or does the pension distribution automatically disqualify me somehow?

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ShadowHunter

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You can absolutely still qualify if you have earned income from working part-time. The pension distribution itself doesn't automatically disqualify you - it's just not counted in the "earned income" calculation for EITC purposes. Your eligibility will depend on your actual earned income from your part-time job (which needs to be above the minimum threshold) and your total AGI (including the pension) staying below the maximum threshold. The specific thresholds depend on your filing status and number of qualifying children. So having some earned income from work while also receiving a pension distribution can definitely work for EITC purposes, as long as your total AGI doesn't exceed the limits.

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Mateo Lopez

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Isn't the income threshold for EITC way lower than 97k anyway? I thought it was like 50-60k max even with kids? so the pension vs earned income distinction wouldn't matter in your case?

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EITC thresholds depend on filing status and number of qualifying children. For 2025 filing season (2024 tax year), a married couple with 3+ qualifying children can have AGI up to about $63k and still qualify. But yeah, at $97k AGI they're way over regardless of what counts as earned vs unearned income.

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Chloe Taylor

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You're right about the thresholds - we would be over the limit regardless. I was just confused about the distinction between earned and unearned income for tax purposes. I think our pension payout would have pushed us over even if we had fewer qualifying children. I appreciate everyone's help on this. It's disappointing we won't qualify for EITC, but at least I understand why now. Will definitely plan better for next year!

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Ethan Davis

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One thing to consider - could you contribute to traditional IRAs for both you and your husband to lower your AGI? Might help with other income-based benefits even if EITC is out of reach.

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Yuki Tanaka

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Pension distributions are also eligible for rollover into an IRA within 60 days to avoid taxes entirely. If that window hasn't passed, this could be huge for them!

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The rollover option @Yuki Tanaka mentioned is crucial - if you took that pension distribution within the last 60 days, you can still roll it into an IRA and it would be treated as if the distribution never happened for tax purposes. This would bring your AGI back down significantly and potentially make you eligible for EITC again. Even if the 60-day window has passed, there are sometimes hardship exceptions available. Given that you mentioned needing the money for home repairs, it might be worth exploring whether any exceptions apply to your situation. If rollover isn't possible, definitely look into maximizing traditional IRA contributions for both you and your husband to reduce AGI. Also consider whether the home repairs qualify for any energy efficiency credits or other tax benefits that could help offset the higher tax burden from the pension distribution.

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Sofia Ramirez

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This is really helpful advice about the rollover option! @d95f093627ea I'd definitely look into this if you're still within that 60-day window. Even if you've already spent some of the money on repairs, you might be able to borrow or use other funds to complete the rollover and then pay yourself back later. The tax savings from staying eligible for EITC plus avoiding the immediate tax hit on the distribution could be substantial. Worth talking to a tax professional ASAP if there's any chance the 60 days hasn't passed yet.

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